Jurassic Lancer

Yup! With all the threads that get closed, I toyed with the idea of opening a thread entitled, “In before close.” 🤣

The term “separate but equal” comes to mind.

And not only this kind of segregation but racial / economic segregation as well. As was discussed on another closed thread, underserved, minority communities have significantly lower vaccination rates than white or Asian American communities for a variety of complex issues. This proposal may end up being the classic form of segregation.

and I have been to Toronto as well. And Cooperstown has Omnegang Brewery!

I don’t know … does Canton, OH have any Hall of Fame experience?

We wiped packaged food, not the food itself

I like the beer so much, I named my dog after it. His full name is Oberon Kenobi.

Yup, it survived! Hopefully, the opening show will be back at Ford Field next year. Right now it is a vaccination site.

My Oberon was quite tasty! But it was at a cafe’ not Comerica Park.

Oops! My bad!

… yet.

I’ve made that trip by car from Michigan. It really is a marathon. Congrats on your new house!

I would have no problem showing my vaccination card. Actually, I took a picture of mine and keep it on my phone. A lot easier than carrying that bulky card around.

And sometimes you get the reverse. When BAC did their Conquest show, Lawrence Twp built the big center prop and then loaned it BAC. Sunday after finals, Lawrence Twp loaded up the prop and used for their Rumplestiltskin show.

Never mind. Sorry, fat fingers.

#### I will try to figure it out. Anyway, this is the headline: A distrust, based on history, keeping many Black Detroiters from getting COVID-19 vaccine This is a short excerpt from the article. Detroit Mayor Mike Duggan has announced the opening of more neighborhood vaccine sites in an effort to encourage more residents in the country's largest majority Black city to roll up their sleeves by making obtaining a inoculation more convenient. Still, many residents say they have questions. Though medical experts insist that COVID-19 vaccines are safe, effective and the only way to put an end to the pandemic, there is skepticism in the Black community over just what is in the vaccine and any potential long-term effects, as well as an historical distrust of the government. When the first wave of the pandemic hit last spring, it took a particularly brutal toll on Detroiters. Medical experts and others attributed much of the disproportionately higher rates of COVID-19 infections and deaths in the city to factors often associated with the byproducts of institutional racism: densely populated areas with higher rates of poverty and lower rates of quality medical care, a dearth of access to affordable high-quality food and environmental dangers from older housing stock. Such factors can contribute to residents having higher instances of comorbidities like diabetes, asthma, high blood pressure and heart disease. The Detroit Free Press went into the community, including restaurants and bars in the Downtown area, and homes and businesses from the east side of the city to the west, even surveying social media, to try to get a picture of what is causing vaccination reluctance. In total, we interviewed 71 African Americans who live and work in the city. And most — even those who have gotten the vaccine — cited such historical points for their skepticism. “African American people, I think historically, we have always been the redheaded stepchild (a colloquial phrase for a neglected child),” Nathan Wells, who is a school administrator in Detroit, said. “We don’t feel a part of the whole.” Out of the 71 Detroiters interviewed, 38 had received at least one vaccine dose and 33 had not been vaccinated. “A lot of people are reluctant because they don’t want to be a private, mini experiment, said Tiba Robinson, 46, a Detroit influencer and event promoter at Tiba Entertainment, who is not vaccinated. “And when you think about a medical experiment, you instantly think about the Tuskegee Experiment.” The Tuskegee Experiment, also known as the Infamous Syphilis Study, started in 1932, when the U.S. Public Health Service decided to look into the pathology behind untreated syphilis, a sexually transmitted disease that typically affects a person’s genitals, rectum or mouth. The study included 600 black men, 399 who were unaware they had the disease and 201 who did not have it. The men, who were all from Macon County, Alabama, and classified as sharecroppers and poor, were all told they were receiving free health care from the government. But instead, they were monitored by government health care workers for over 15 years to see the effects of the disease and given no treatment, even after penicillin became the recommended medication. As a result, many of the men died, permanently lost their vision, went insane or experienced other severe health problems because of the untreated disease. Many of the Detroiters interviewed for this article cited this study as a key reason for being skittish about getting vaccinated. There’s another 2000 words (give or take) and lots of interviews, and more reasons given for skepticism revolving around the themes of distrust, but you get the drift. From the April 23 edition of the Detroit Free Press, one of two major daily Detroit news papers. Free Press staff writers Christina Hall and Kristen Jordan Shamus contributed to this report. Kyla L. Wright is a Detroit native who covers the city's neighborhoods and the various people, places and things that give Detroit its unique character. You can reach her at klwright@freepress.com and follow her on Twitter at @kylawrightmedia. Subscribe to the Free Press. Jasmin Barmore was born and raised in the city of Detroit. She covers the city's neighborhoods and communities using her passion as her drive to give the voiceless a voice. You can reach her at jmbarmore@freepress.com or by sending her a message on Instagram or Twitter at @bjasminmarie. Like I said, this is a complex issue and we do need to look beyond the sterile statistics.

I deplore the disparity of who gets vaccinated and who doesn’t (or won’t) get vaccinated. As many know. I live in Detroit (well, Detroit area) and recently the Detroit Free Press ran this article, which I also found interesting. I think it highlights the complexity of the vaccination situation. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.freep.com/amp/7194298002

I found this article interesting as to why some people are skeptical about getting a vaccination: https://news.yahoo.com/vaccine-skepticism-viewed-knowledge-problem-185747045.html

And in Michigan, the most recent US hotspot, cases have been coming down for the past week. A few weeks ago, we hit 79 cases per 100,000. We are currently at 43 cases per 100,000 (seven day rolling average). Still very high, but we are going in the right direction. (Source: Washington Post.) And today, I am considered fully vaccinated!

I doubt Michigan will get as high as 60%.

Knowing that projecting your voice, i.e., singing requires more space than the 6’ guideline, and at least one choir was a super spreading event, would the guy who inevitably shouts, “They’re always ready,” be a super spreader?

It all depends on what Indiana / Indianapolis decrees. Michigan is tying opening at various levels to vaccination rates.

Honestly, my bar is so low, it’s on the ground, so anything is bound to get me on my feet, unless someone brings a shovel.

It’s all good, brother. I took it in the spirit it was intended

It would also be nice if I couldn’t see their posts when quoted by another member, but I do my best to block it out and do not respond to the quoted section.