Slow Adam Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 maybe that's why their drum break was torn at every single entrance last year at finals? hmm... Maybe they ticked (no tears for the record, just ticks) because they were adding players one by one into an accelerating roll pattern with a ridiculous amount of simultaneous body demand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kekkles Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 Maybe they ticked (no tears for the record, just ticks) because they were adding players one by one into an accelerating roll pattern with a ridiculous amount of simultaneous body demand? wiggling left and right isn't ridiculous, and it's not anything i haven't seen high school drumlines do. honestly, each player's entrance was fracked, and apparently one of them just didn't come in when it was his turn, and just stood there. i mean, maybe it's just me, but i don't expect that kind of thing on finals night, i don't expect it from the blue devils, and i don't expect it to win a drum trophy. and i don't expect a triplet-based roll pattern for a drum break to win a drum trophy either, especially not when phantom's running around doing transitional flams and such in a much longer drum break, but that's a different issue i suppose... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Swiss Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 Kekkles, two things: 1) watch the sticking. It's a bit more complex than you make it out to be 2) you might have to explain what a "transitional flam" is, because i've never heard of it. in fact, I just googled it, and the only thing that came up was a paper on the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics site, which casts some serious doubt on your credibility Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Drum Corps Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 Bob Dole...definitely. He wrote hugga dugga burrr while at Golden Lancers. Donny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dans Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 wiggling left and right isn't ridiculous, and it's not anything i haven't seen high school drumlines do.honestly, each player's entrance was fracked, and apparently one of them just didn't come in when it was his turn, and just stood there. i mean, maybe it's just me, but i don't expect that kind of thing on finals night, i don't expect it from the blue devils, and i don't expect it to win a drum trophy. and i don't expect a triplet-based roll pattern for a drum break to win a drum trophy either, especially not when phantom's running around doing transitional flams and such in a much longer drum break, but that's a different issue i suppose... Well said! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kekkles Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 (edited) Kekkles, two things:1) watch the sticking. It's a bit more complex than you make it out to be 2) you might have to explain what a "transitional flam" is, because i've never heard of it. in fact, I just googled it, and the only thing that came up was a paper on the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics site, which casts some serious doubt on your credibility eh, "transitional flams" is essentially a made up term on my part to describe what i saw to myself. hang on, let me find the video so i can describe it to you... ok, youtube "2007 phantom regiment drumline parking lot" and it should be the first video. it will have the word "solo" in the video description. now, watch the snares at around the 1:47 - 1:50 mark. like i said, it's essentially a personal term, but there it is. and i'm not saying that those few seconds of drumming blew everything else bd had out of the water, but those few seconds (among other areas) did make me laugh because i was so impressed... no part of bd's warm up of a drum break did that for me. EDIT: youtube "bluedevils drumline vic firth promo #3" those are triplet rolls, no ifs ands or buts about it. i'm just... not impressed. in addition, if you keep watching the video, you can see that their mark time has a lot of individual inconsistencies. i can spot a couple of instances where someone is just plain old out of step. Edited May 2, 2008 by Kekkles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Swiss Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 those seemed like just straight flams to me, in the Phantom video (blazin' fast, but still flams) I think what made the BD solo so good was the actual performance of it on the field. Watching a video of just the line warming up with it doesn't have the same effect on me as watching the full corps on the field, all doing the same body work, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kekkles Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 yeah, i realized about half an hour ago how non-impressive that is if i just point out flams, but you beat me here before i could edit >_< what most impresses me is not the flams per se, it's how smooth they are during the transition from the right to left hand, plus the fact that those flams were super clean across the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSnareline Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 yeah, i realized about half an hour ago how non-impressive that is if i just point out flams, but you beat me here before i could edit >_<what most impresses me is not the flams per se, it's how smooth they are during the transition from the right to left hand, plus the fact that those flams were super clean across the line. Alhough "I Believe" the Blue Devils were the clear winners this year in DCI I will agree than Phantom had the better drumline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxmanjames7 Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 Also keep in mind that the caption trophies are averages of all three nights' scores, not just one night... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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