jeff danchik Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Ron (aka srcorps.com) has 84/85 listed as General Butler Vagabonds.Thought the General Butler Vagabond name was connected to a late 90s/early 00s corps also. Soemwhere I saw the same GBV-Nightstorm or something like that. Problem is there are also the names Nightstorm (Night Storm?) and Alleghany Nightstorm so no idea if same corps or name got changed around. (Bad as Westshoremen-Bonnie Scots/Westshoremen ). The competetive GBV Jr corps folded around 98. The Alleghenny Nightstorm was based out of Emelton and was a reconstituted Grey Knights program.The Nightstorm people of Butler, was the desire to move under the GBV umbrella,since they had much more money,equipment, and facilities. Some people were upset with the move and did not follow them to Butler.Those left behind tried to start up as Blues Inc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wishbonecav Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 If so, that was an amazing whoops that would deserve an ** in the history books...212 dci corps in that year? sounds awfully high... can anyone else confirm this from that area? or someone who marched? did they have 2 corps? now you got my curiosity up... funny thing is I was probably at American Open Butler that year with Patriots. You were there. So was I. Butler was Prelims and Finals....and the Patriots (84) beat the Newmarket Ambassadors in prelims in a pretty major upset. Northmen, Canadian Knights, Ventures, NY Lancers, Patriots, Newmarket and Vagabonds in finals. Lancers took high drums with 9 snares (and they were ridiculous). Allentown 85...GBV was there, too. Ask Dick if you can take my word for it on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff danchik Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 The corps has started to do parades and the new director is doing a nice job.I heard some rumors that some alumni would like to see an all age corps.Might be worth looking into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wishbonecav Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 (edited) whoops...not Ventures, but PRC. And I forgot about Black Watch, Pepe's Kingsmen and the Citations. Here's the tally (off Newmarket's Website which is pretty cool btw) August 7, 1984- Butler, Pennsylvania, American International Open Division II (A class) prelims 1) Canadian Knights, Peterborough, ON 82.60 2) Phantom Regiment Cadets, IL 77.50 3) Northmen, NY 75.30 4) New York Lancers, Bronx, NY 71.60 5) Rochester Patriots, Rochester, NY 68.90 6) Ambassadors, Newmarket, ON 66.90 7) General Butler Vagabonds, PA 66.60 8) Black Watch, NJ 66.00 9) Fitchburg Kingsmen, MA 56.80 10) Burlington Citations, MA 56.80 11) Cleveland Caballaros, OH 55.40 12) Marion Cadets, OH 55.40 13) CMCC Warriors, NY 49.10 14) Sundowners, WI 39.80 15) Cadets of Dutch Boy, Kitchener, ON 36.60 Division II (A class) finals 1) Canadian Knights, Peterborough, ON 82.60 2) Northmen, NY 81.80 3) Phantom Regiment Cadets, IL 77.70 4) New York Lancers, Bronx, NY 74.50 5) Ambassadors, Newmarket, ON 70.80 6) Rochester Patriots, Rochester, NY 65.40 7) Black Watch, NJ 64.10 8) General Butler Vagabonds, PA 63.70 9) Burlington Citations, MA 60.10 10) Fitchburg Kingsmen, MA 57.60 High Percussion: New York Lancers, High Brass: (tie) Canadian Knights and Northmen, High Visual and General Effect: Canadian Knights Edited April 15, 2009 by wishbonecav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Matczak Posted April 16, 2009 Author Share Posted April 16, 2009 so,...............was it the same corps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Matczak Posted April 22, 2009 Author Share Posted April 22, 2009 so,...............was it the same corps? or not? anybody? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Drum Corps Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 whoops...not Ventures, but PRC. And I forgot about Black Watch, Pepe's Kingsmen and the Citations. Here's the tally (off Newmarket's Website which is pretty cool btw)August 7, 1984- Butler, Pennsylvania, American International Open Division II (A class) prelims 1) Canadian Knights, Peterborough, ON 82.60 2) Phantom Regiment Cadets, IL 77.50 3) Northmen, NY 75.30 4) New York Lancers, Bronx, NY 71.60 5) Rochester Patriots, Rochester, NY 68.90 6) Ambassadors, Newmarket, ON 66.90 7) General Butler Vagabonds, PA 66.60 8) Black Watch, NJ 66.00 9) Fitchburg Kingsmen, MA 56.80 10) Burlington Citations, MA 56.80 11) Cleveland Caballaros, OH 55.40 12) Marion Cadets, OH 55.40 13) CMCC Warriors, NY 49.10 14) Sundowners, WI 39.80 15) Cadets of Dutch Boy, Kitchener, ON 36.60 Division II (A class) finals 1) Canadian Knights, Peterborough, ON 82.60 2) Northmen, NY 81.80 3) Phantom Regiment Cadets, IL 77.70 4) New York Lancers, Bronx, NY 74.50 5) Ambassadors, Newmarket, ON 70.80 6) Rochester Patriots, Rochester, NY 65.40 7) Black Watch, NJ 64.10 8) General Butler Vagabonds, PA 63.70 9) Burlington Citations, MA 60.10 10) Fitchburg Kingsmen, MA 57.60 High Percussion: New York Lancers, High Brass: (tie) Canadian Knights and Northmen, High Visual and General Effect: Canadian Knights No kidding??? Northmen won high brass at that show? I taught that line with Ron Bowks. Tom Allen and Dave Seeley were the soloists. Joe Guads drum line...10 snares, 6 tenors, 6 basses, 6 cymbals and a gazillion in the pit. The horn line was good but was usually out balance by the drum line. 34 brass 36 percussion. I think those were the days that Curt Hawkins played the solos for GBV while laying on the ground. Donny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnZ Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 1984 Curt was already playing with Steel City. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pgh Guy2 Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 All of us Pixburgh drumcorps people have been secretly sworn to not talk about the GBV 1985 switcharoo by Butler and company....Not many people know/knew that Butler Vagabonds competed in DCA....."Yunz" need to get the scoop from the head master himself.... Pgh Guy Bari 2 Extraordinaire John G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiodb Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 No - it was the Fort Edward, NY, Vagabonds that competed in DCA in '84 and '85. General Butler Vagabonds competed as a junior corps in those same years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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