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W..I think you're getting two locations/stories mixed up...I vaguely remember the Mormons, but I'm not sure that was Pibody. (was that Canton, with Troutwoman's suit maybe??) 1980 Pibody was the Corps banquet, where everyone took suits and nice dresses, and all that, and we had the corps banquet at the Holiday Inn (the day after the Boston show, after dealing with "Cannon" the hotel security guy (who looked like Frank Cannon) the night before, because the hotel screwed up and didn't put the corps on just one or two floors) I remember since we all "room hopped" this dimwit kept telling us to go back to our rooms, and we kept telling him he wasn't "the boss of us"! :devil:

After the banquet, as people were leaving (and half toasted) they were getting tossed into the pool in their suits and dresses, and McShane stood in the window of his room, and did a strip tease (dropping items of clothing as we removed them), when he got to his "underbritches" ($1. to Larry the Cable guy) "Cannon" told him that he better stop there or he was calling the police...to which Tom responded "then I'm gonna jump!" Now while that was going on Steve Bolinger was flashing everyone out of the immediate view of "Cannon".

Not TOO long after that, the staff went to everyone and said we had to leave the hotel, NOW, and to pack immediately, and return to the buses as soon as possible, no goofing around...after we were in the buses, Larry went on each one and said "the hotel management has called the police, if you have stolen ANYTHING at all, even towels, please return it to your rooms, NOW!" And about 5-10 people on each bus got off, and there were pictures, lamps, and other stuff heading back into the hotel. When we finally had everyone again, we left for the parade and there were something like 5-6 Massachusetts State Police cars escorting us out of Pibody.... that was when someone on the back of our bus yelled " MOON 'EM!" :thumbup:

That was also the parade that Dave Krauss (snare, for anyone that didn't know him) marched in a guard skirt and boots (and we all had items of some alcoholic variety in our stick bags, which we partook of every time we stopped)

I have to ask Monica, but I think she also has a picture of us mooning off of some bridge in downtown Boston?!?! :blink:

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The Mormons incident didn't happen at Pibadee. NOTHING happened there, which was why we went stir-crazy and people wrecked the place like the Bridgemen did when THEY were there before us. But at one time we did stay in Boston at the Roundtowner with the Mormons. It HAD to be 1981. Why? I don't think McShane marched with us in '82, and the person who has and took the photo of McShane in that suit's rookie year was 1981. that narrows down the window.

Hmm, let's look at DCA's website and see where we DID compete in 1981, that's gotta give us a clue....

Hmm... unless... the person who HAS the photo didn't TAKE the photo. I clearly remember McShane did all of this with the Mormons at the Roundtowner on the rooftop pool. (Who can forget THAT goofy name for a Hotel!?!?!?) Maybe Larry or Bill Leight can get the connection there for us next Alumni practice?

And no, the McShane in Drag incident with the Mormons didn't happen at the motel (Days Inn!?!?!) in Canton, where a lot DID happen, with Brother Dave, Denny Chiaretta, Ben, Ricky Lee, and several others.

Now, where was I during that whole mess that night!?!?!? Good question! I was with Bill Leight, Howie (I think Howie), and Benny Behrens. Benny wanted "Pizza Pie" (yes, that's what people of that vintage inclding one of my Grandfathers called it), said he knew where some was nearby and set out on foot down the freakin' highway in total darkness. We went along figuring someone should keep an eye on Benny setting foot on a highway at night, he walked down a road at least a mile or two, we made him turn around, and we ended up at the Denny's where we had spaghetti as a compromise with him. I heard what happened from Denny C. with the communion served with sliced bananas as the communion wafers in the conference room they broke into, and also heard that somehow, Chuck got pulled into that "religious service" when he tried to stop it.

As for THAT pool in Canton and the interactions with Canton law enforcement, and the normals at the Day's Inn who were offended by what was going on in said pool, I was NOT there, I have witnesses in the form of Bill Leight, Howie, and Benny's angel. I plead NOT GUILTY!!!! Someone had to keep an eye on Benny or the van wouldn't have made it home... :innocent:

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I honestly don't remember a rooftop pool? (may have been more chemically adjusted in those daze :blink: )

Boston (and the holiday inn) (well Pibody) was the pool next to where the banquet was. and was in a court yard type set up...hence McShane doing the second floor striptease...

1981 is a blur to me for various reasons (I wont' even go into a few other years...oy)

Canton was always a "hotel" trip, and usually a blast in and of itself...I have some old schedules somewhere, maybe I should go check them out and see which trips were "hotel" trips over the years...I DO remember a few Clifton trips being hotels, and of course finals, not to mention the various Ohio trips (and Montreal in 82 :devil: ) Dubois was usually a gym floor wasn't it?

How about upstate New York???? Wasn't the Day's Inn we stayed at the one in Allentown? I've passed that a few times (as well as the old hotel we used to stay in Clifton...had a friend that lived in NYC, and on the way home I looked over and said "HOLY ####! :blink: I STAYED IN THAT HOTEL!" (had some splainin' to my wife)

I DO remember McShane in Troutwomans bathing suit...I just forget where! (stupid brain cells!!!!) :doh::doh: :doh:

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No pool at Pibadee. The only entertainment was the Silverball Mania Pinball machine. NOTHING! Well, TV. All like 3ish channels.

I remember asking if there was a nearby place to eat at the lobby. Go to even McDonalds for God's sake for a change of pace and a walk. they told me there was an I-Hop. I say, "Where!?!?!?" The response, "Ten miles down the road". I also remember the Hotel staff telling us the Bridgemen superglued the knobs on the TV's and did some stuff as well when they went stir-crazy. If we had superglue, we'd have done that, too, as well as shot it in the locks to the rooms the way we were going there. Pibadee was a Holiday Inn. Not a bad one, but lacked anything close within walking distance and lacked anything to do when stuck there. The Roundtowner was a really decent Hotel, a serious cut above the budget chains. Rooftop pool, like 15 floors, we did have things to do, IIRC the TV had more than 4 channels-- I still remember trying to watch TV when we were in Broussard, it was CBC boring, and CBC 2 more boring.....

Speaking of Superglue and locks, I did that to a fellow educator who honked me off. She relied on index cards for lesson plans. Zap a Gap fills a tupperware index card holder snap thing very well since it fills all gaps. Shut the top of the card holder, the pressure helps to make the bond better. :thumbup:

And I also had a bottle of Zip Kicker, which is a catalyst which instantly hardens Superglue, hardens it so fast it crackles and you can feel the coolness of the checmical reaction. And hardens it VERY righteously. Shoot the Zap into the lock... then shoot the kicker. It'd take a LOT of acetone to get that stuff out of a lock mechanism. Oh, and did the same to the pencil sharpener. Emptied it first so it'd be awhile before anyone found THAT. :inlove:

Didn't get caught, was out of dodge and the town for good before she'd have found it out... :innocent:

You guys know I'm normally a very good guy- helped a neighbor out last night at 4 AM for instance when he was in serious trouble, but just don't cop a "I are a normal and holier than thou" attitude with me and throw it in my face like she did. Heck, I don't think I've gotten that medieval on anyone since then, which was over 20 years ago. Though I do have to say there are some former students in upstate NY that I'd gladly do that to if I ever got the opportunity. :innocent:

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:thumbup: Oh, yes, the issues with leaving at Pibadee.

Escorted out by either the Massatoochitts Stateies or the local constabulary, after Virgin and Rickie Lee offloaded how many lamps and object's d'art?

I think Rook kept the towels anyway. :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

THAT was surreal.

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:thumbup: Oh, yes, the issues with leaving at Pibadee.

Escorted out by either the Massatoochitts Stateies or the local constabulary, after Virgin and Rickie Lee offloaded how many lamps and object's d'art?

I think Rook kept the towels anyway. :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

THAT was surreal.

Bobby Gibson kept the sheets...we ended up making signs with them for DCA...I also remember someone getting a copy of a "DCA APPROVED VEHICLE" sign, and making photo copies and passing them out to corps members (probably Uncle Larry at some point)

One of the funny things I also remember of THAT day (DCA) was a Canadian corps getting a lot of grief from the Hersheypark parking dimwit, and sending someone to distract him, so they could pull their bus into the lot...when they went out to move the "saw horse" that was blocking the exit, they just put it on the bus! When the parking dimwit came back, he freaked "where's my barrier!?!?!" Then left cursing the whole way! funny people those drum corps people! :tongue:

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one of the years in the 90s at Hershey as we were closing the lot, someone got the bright idea to take those metal barricades and surround Dans car.

then set off the alarm.

needless to say, Derry twp's not so finest weren't happy and made us leave.

Well, it was 4 am

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one of the years in the 90s at Hershey as we were closing the lot, someone got the bright idea to take those metal barricades and surround Dans car.

then set off the alarm.

needless to say, Derry twp's not so finest weren't happy and made us leave.

Well, it was 4 am

yeah... wouldn't have been the first time I was asked to leave that lot....once was in 1985 (probably about 2-3am) when I had my van...I was "entertaining a friend" and there was a knock on the door by one of Hersheypark's "security" people and they said "you have 10 minutes to leave the lot before Derry Twp. Police are called" I figured...great, I can finish what I was doing, have another beer and get the heck out of here! :thumbup:

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Jumping back into 1982 (and talking about Hershey shows of the past) reminded me of the trip to Canada that year...some of the guys that were still around from 1978's trip to "Nawlin's" were telling us how wild of a trip this will be...sure, not the 24 hour excursion that they experienced, but a long azz trip nonetheless. Tales of the get on the bus, get drunk, fall asleep, get drunk again...etc. (i.e. lather, rise, repeat) came out, and we figured we'd (weed :blink:) have a good time heading up there!

One of the things that crossed my mind was when we stopped about an hour from the Canadian border, and the buses all pulled off the side of the road...Larry got on the bus and made the following announcement(paraphrasing, but pretty close):

"We are about an hour from Canada. we will have to go through the border gates, and they MAY come on the bus and search it, that being said, IF you have anything that is 'illegal in nature' please take the time to get rid off it BEFORE we get to the border. we WILL make a stop prior to the border to make sure of this again. Also, we will have a 'bus spokesman' to speak with the border guard. IF the border guard gets on the bus, you will answer any and all questions honestly, and directly. Your bus spokespeople will be Norm and George (the bus driver) If you are asked what country you are a resident of, you will answer 'United States of America'...do you have any questions? Ok, no smart azzed answers, please and please take the remaining time to get rid of any illegal substances you may be carrying"

Well immediately Bus Two became "Jamaica" :hehe: he didn't say HOW to get rid of it :blink:

When we DID finally get to the border (after begging George to hit a drive through) the border guard came up to the bus, George opened the door, and Norm stood on the steps. We heard the guy ask him a few questions (most of Norm's responses were "Yes Sir") the guy then came on the bus and asked "Is everyone on this bus a United States citizen" we all answered "YES!" Then he asked "is anyone a citizen of any other country" (I looked back at Rob Soop, and two people were sitting on him, and keeping him quiet) and we all answered "NO" "Ok, thank you, welcome to Canada!"

And of course, as the bus pulled away, I remembered someone yelling "MOON THEM!" :spitting:

I DO remember drinking a LOT of beer on that trip, and it was one of the first times I could "legally" sit at a bar and drink to my hearts content! :thumbup:

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