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[Jeff Ream]

Drum corps is the same way. A group of performers playing brass, hitting drums, spinning some kind of equipment, with some in a "pit". None of that has changed, unless you count adding the pit thirty years ago.

or the electronics

[Kamarag]

or the electronics

Well, many think electronics are a component of the pit. And a useful one at that. So we're back to square one.

[markdewine]

.....no, square one would have been back around 1918, when drums, bugles, and uniforms were plenty.

With all the changes, were on square 2,486, and it's pretty much not even drum corps anymore.

[Kamarag]

.....no, square one would have been back around 1918, when drums, bugles, and uniforms were plenty.

With all the changes, were on square 2,486, and it's pretty much not even drum corps anymore.

Well, by that definition it hasn't been drum corps since they added the D-crook to bugles in 1920.

[Stu]

NASCAR went through a huge paradigm shift when they went from Stock Cars (where someone went to a salvage yard, bought a car, put in a roll cage, and went to the track) over to fabricated Race Cars (specially designed and built in a specialized shop). However, they still maintained their stock identity (full body, engine blocks from Chevy, Ford, etc…) Many fans cried foul when Toyota was introduced to the mix (but even then the cars still retained full body stock appearance). All of that, in a way, resembles the growth of DCI up until a few years ago. However, DCI allowing electronics and woodwinds would equate to NASCAR allowing open wheeled Indy type cars. That would alter the whole sport of NASCAR. And what we are talking about here is the same kind of alteration of DCI.

[Kamarag]

NASCAR went through a huge paradigm shift when they went from Stock Cars (where someone went to a salvage yard, bought a car, put in a roll cage, and went to the track) over to fabricated Race Cars (specially designed and built in a specialized shop). However, they still maintained their stock identity (full body, engine blocks from Chevy, Ford, etc…) Many fans cried foul when Toyota was introduced to the mix (but even then the cars still retained full body stock appearance). All of that, in a way, resembles the growth of DCI up until a few years ago. However, DCI allowing electronics and woodwinds would equate to NASCAR allowing open wheeled Indy type cars. That would alter the whole sport of NASCAR. And what we are talking about here is the same kind of alteration of DCI.

Completely disagree. Allowing amplification and electronics is much more akin to NASCAR allowing synthetic oils and lubricants.

[Scoutnout]

.....no, square one would have been back around 1918, when drums, bugles, and uniforms were plenty.

With all the changes, were on square 2,486, and it's pretty much not even drum corps anymore.

We are actually talking about 1918 are your kidding. That makes all this discussion from the bleecher experts even more absurd.

It really seems people dont mind SOME change as long as it is the change they want and to the degree they want. hmmmm does it really work that way? I dont think so.

[Stu]

Completely disagree. Allowing amplification and electronics is much more akin to NASCAR allowing synthetic oils and lubricants.

Changing to synthetic Oil and lubricants in NASCAR "would not" be seen or heard by the paying public. They would only enhance the internal products already there like a DCI corps switching over to synthetic valve oil for trumpets.

[garfield]

We are actually talking about 1918 are your kidding. That makes all this discussion from the bleecher experts even more absurd.

It really seems people dont mind SOME change as long as it is the change they want and to the degree they want. hmmmm does it really work that way? I dont think so.

And if it's that cold and harsh; "We change this way whether you like it or not", then the only choice I have is to go on trying to like the changes, or leave.

Pretty simple, it seems.

[markdewine]

The comment re: 1918 was meant to be tongue in cheek. Sorry I didn't post "LOL" and a "smily" emoticon for the thin-skinned youngsters who simply MUST have everything in their life PC. My bad.