76strad Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 (edited) Maybe it's just me, but I have great respect for all screamers and their abilities, but when I go through the Fan Network and listen to the screamers through the ages, I am genuinely surprised that alot of them can get it, yet (in my personal view) their tone isn't that great. I mean i'm not gonna bash them, because I can't wail double G's ya know? so I won't bash them, but I am curious as to if they're that talented is it the equipment that gives them that sound, or is it like those players I occasionally run into that can do it, but they sound edgy. Can you guys that do/have done it explain it to me please? Like I've said I have the greatest respect for them hitting it, and would still fly to my feet screaming if it was live, but I just feel that some screamers just don't have that golden sound. Mainly I don't like BDs, but any year with Scott Dean in it (2003) I adore them, because in my view he has great quality and sounds amazing. Please don't flame me, just asking for clarification from people who have/still are doing it. (there are alot of grammer errors above, sad huh?) Edited July 27, 2010 by 76strad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGarrett Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 Well in the right format or setting, a screamer certainly has it's place. Interesting , though, that some "screamers" were in such "interesting" settings you might not think: Colt's (Greg Blum - 80's) & Guardsmen (several, but Fred Bell was a stand out in the late 70's) come to mind immediately. Madison, Bridgemen, VK, even Blue Devils all come to mind as perfect settings for a good screamer. But one BAD screamer can sure make the well placed highest of high notes sound pretty bad and leave a bad "taste" in a listeners mind about it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFZFAN Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 Check out North Star 1979. Noonan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
76strad Posted July 27, 2010 Author Share Posted July 27, 2010 One other quick question, how long did it take you to achieve a good sounding lip trill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRASSO Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 Maybe it's just me, but I have great respect for all screamers and their abilities, but when I go through the Fan Network and listen to the screamers through the ages, I am genuinely surprised that alot of them can get it, yet (in my personal view) their tone isn't that great. I mean i'm not gonna bash them, because I can't wail double G's ya know? so I won't bash them, but I am curious as to if they're that talented is it the equipment that gives them that sound, or is it like those players I occasionally run into that can do it, but they sound edgy. Can you guys that do/have done it explain it to me please? Like I've said I have the greatest respect for them hitting it, and would still fly to my feet screaming if it was live, but I just feel that some screamers just don't have that golden sound. Mainly I don't like BDs, but any year with Scott Dean in it (2003) I adore them, because in my view he has great quality and sounds amazing. Please don't flame me, just asking for clarification from people who have/still are doing it. (there are alot of grammer errors above, sad huh?) It's the risk one takes in order to be edgy. It's not easy when the range goes this high for the screamer. It's naturally a lot easier to maintain tone quality when it's a soft ballad at a lower register being played. The screamer is taking chances, and sometimes the music is being played fast. Thus, sometimes because of the risk taken, the intonation might get sacrificed on a few occasions in order for the screamer to hit the high ones. But it's happened in the past even with the best screamers on trumpet in the business on a few occasions, including the likes of Doc Severinson, Maynard Ferguson. But God bless' em all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OState10 Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 One of my favorite "high-trumpet-note" parts of a show is definitely after the opener in Blue Devils 2004. Does anyone know what the highest trumpet note ever hit in DCI is? Just wondering now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollywoodNeoCon Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 Check out North Star 1979. Noonan. No ####, right?!?!?!? But I always thought he was better in 1980. Just my .02. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGarrett Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 One other quick question, how long did it take you to achieve a good sounding lip trill? who... ME?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA... sorry, I should have made it more clear I was just "commenting" not implying ability. Still working on that lip trill ... but I have a pretty good roll down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollywoodNeoCon Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 (edited) who... ME?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA... sorry, I should have made it more clear I was just "commenting" not implying ability. Still working on that lip trill ... but I have a pretty good roll down. Speaking as one drummer to another, I'm pretty sure they weren't asking us, bro... But KUDOS for stepping up anyway!!!!!!!!!!! Edited July 27, 2010 by HollywoodNeoCon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseyboy Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 (edited) Maybe it's just me, but I have great respect for all screamers and their abilities, but when I go through the Fan Network and listen to the screamers through the ages, I am genuinely surprised that alot of them can get it, yet (in my personal view) their tone isn't that great. I mean i'm not gonna bash them, because I can't wail double G's ya know? so I won't bash them, but I am curious as to if they're that talented is it the equipment that gives them that sound, or is it like those players I occasionally run into that can do it, but they sound edgy. Can you guys that do/have done it explain it to me please? Like I've said I have the greatest respect for them hitting it, and would still fly to my feet screaming if it was live, but I just feel that some screamers just don't have that golden sound. Mainly I don't like BDs, but any year with Scott Dean in it (2003) I adore them, because in my view he has great quality and sounds amazing. Please don't flame me, just asking for clarification from people who have/still are doing it. (there are alot of grammer errors above, sad huh?) Thats what most guys who CAN'T scream say. bad form. Whats the difference between a soloist and a screamer ? ---TONE... Most of those screamers as you put it had excellent tone. go and listen 1974-1981 Edited July 27, 2010 by FanofNight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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