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For the love of god, people. :rolleyes:

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Giving an imaginary score to a non performance " day off " or " days off " and using this " score" in a ranking calculation is silly no matter how you slice it. But it can be fun too, so thats ok by me.

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For the love of god, people. :rolleyes:

Exactly Hos'. Some people seemed to have jumped the shark here on somebody's " rankings " and others response to the methodology used or whatever. If we look around the Drum Corps cricuit, there's probably a half dozen or more " rankings " out there with any number of methodologies used, and as a result, the " rankings" are all over the lot. ( of course). If someone is bothered by your " rankings " let them just go make up their own " rankings " and use whatever criteria, real or imagined, they so desire, and post that on DCP... or on their fridge if they want.

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Exactly Hos'. Some people seemed to have jumped the shark here on somebody's " rankings " and others response to the methodology used or whatever. If we look around the Drum Corps cricuit, there's probably a half dozen or more " rankings " out there with any number of methodologies used, and as a result, the " rankings " are all over the lot. ( of course). If someone is bothered by your " rankings " let them just go make up their own " rankings " and use whatever criteria, real or imagined, they so desire, and post that on DCP... or on their fridge if they want.

Hey, Brasso, I have an off-topic, unimportant question about the format of your posts: are you deliberately adding extra spaces around words that you enclose in quotation marks? (And if so, may I ask why?) Or is that just some glitch in the system?

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I scrolled back on this thread, but havn't seen any " bitter posters" that gave Hostrauser " crap " for this. Some ( like me ) think it's a silly methodology used, but said it's fine and cool, and even cautioned others about not beating him up for his " rankings ". What posters on this thread appeared " bitter " because " their Corps wasn't ranked in a favorable manner" ? Poster " CQuinn " ? His post wasn't all that " bitter " or " obnoxious " in my opinion. Maybe there's a history with this poster I should know about ? Thats because his post.. and link above.. seemed rather tame to me. What am I missing ?

That is cool, we will disagree. I don't care who is more accurate, nor do I care if it is characterized as a prediction or ranking (both are subjective). What I find obnoxious is admonishing someone for posting theirs because they have believe some other to be more accurate. They should all be in fun.

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Hey, Brasso, I have an off-topic, unimportant question about the format of your posts: are you deliberately adding extra spaces around words that you enclose in quotation marks? (And if so, may I ask why?) Or is that just some glitch in the system?

Its probably a glitch in my posting manner, and not a virus on your computer system or whatever.

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For the love of god, people. :rolleyes:

LOL. Agreed! And, I say "thanks for the rankings", too. I'll be following along....... :thumbup:

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That is cool, we will disagree. I don't care who is more accurate, nor do I care if it is characterized as a prediction or ranking (both are subjective). What I find obnoxious is admonishing someone for posting theirs because they have believe some other to be more accurate. They should all be in fun.

Yes, I hear you, but you don't seem to be having any fun with it, ie using terms like " obnoxious " to characterize a poster who might have replied in a manner to these rankings that you did not like. Hos' himself seems ok with you, so you might want to relax and have some fun. Its no big deal, ya know.

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An example for the former: If Corps X and Corps Y meet at Show A, but then Corps X increases 0.5 at Show B and Corps Y increases 3.0 at Show C on the same day, further investigation is needed. Did the other corps at Show C experience such huge score bumps? Too many ranking just take the scores at face value, leading to the argument that you can't compare scores from show to show. My argument is that you CAN (too many constants: same corps, same performers, usually a large number of same judges from the DCI pool), you just have to be careful with it.

An example for the latter: different judges use different spreads. Marie Czapinski and Debbie Torchia come to mind as DCI judges that can be very critical and have very large spreads. This is not a claim that their judging ability is any better or worse than anyone else's. Merely that if "John Smith" scored corps 16.0/15.0/14.0 in a particular caption, Marie or Debbie might score those corps 16.0/13.0/10.0 in that same caption. Same order but bigger spreads. If Corps X and Corps Y have been within 0.5 of each other in a caption for four straight shows, then at the fifth show they're 2.3 apart... well, look deeper.

Oh the pain in my head, PLEASE make it stop

Oh God, I thought I was back in high school again and I still don't know the name of the bus driver. :doh:

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Yes, I hear you, but you don't seem to be having any fun with it, ie using terms like " obnoxious " to characterize a poster who might have replied in a manner to these rankings that you did not like. Hos' himself seems ok with you, so you might want to relax and have some fun. Its no big deal, ya know.

You're right, having fun now! Reality check taken. :).

Seriousy, keep pumping them out Hos'. They are fun, as are the facebook rankings linked here. I am all in with anyone willing to go through that kind of effort.

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