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JeffUsnaDB Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Or alternatively, have ticket takers and security at the "main" gate we all walked past on our lengthy trek to the end zone/box office. That seems like a pretty easy fix for those that have tickets in hand. Even though this is one to be discussed between DCA and the stadium folks, I tend to agree here, as well. I do believe the stadium was rented "conservatively" being the first year here. What I mean by that is, for each gate opened, additional security would have to be hired which adds to the rental cost to DCA. No one knew how successful this year would be... so costs were managed on the conservative side in year one. Certainly something that will be looked at. Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamarag Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Even though this is one to be discussed between DCA and the stadium folks, I tend to agree here, as well. I do believe the stadium was rented "conservatively" being the first year here. What I mean by that is, for each gate opened, additional security would have to be hired which adds to the rental cost to DCA. No one knew how successful this year would be... so costs were managed on the conservative side in year one. Certainly something that will be looked at. Jeff Yea, it's more of a convenience thing. Just seemed silly to park by the "front" gate then walk to the side just to walk back to our seats. Not a huge deal, to be sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffUsnaDB Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 I'll sit down with Kevin Hassan next year on this one, because I do believe City Dock is the place for I&E. Especially if we do the "DCA at the Docks" concerts on Thursday night like this year. I wonder if mini-corps directors/designers would be amenable to keeping their drill inside the dimensions of the City Dock stage, if they knew early on that the finals would be there? I also wonder how many I&E attendees were underage? how many I&E performers were underage? Although I TOTALLY love the pub crawl idea.... Jeff 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamarag Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 I also wonder how many I&E attendees were underage? how many I&E performers were underage? Although I TOTALLY love the pub crawl idea.... I love that idea too. Maybe play the wristband game, if it's legal in MD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShutUpAndPlayYerGuitar Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 I can say firsthand that the original idea for I&E was to hold all of the events at City Dock. I knew going in that one of the best parts about Rochester was the "block party" feel of I&E, and the best spot to replicate that experience in Annapolis is City Dock. The deciding factor was that I&E concludes with mini-corps, and with the mini-corps drill expanding every year, the City Dock stage was simply too small. Hell, one of the ideas had each City Dock pub sponsoring one of the I&E events (as most of them have small live music venues), so you could "pub crawl" your way through I&E. I voted six times for that one. But it all came down to keeping all of the events together so fans could bounce from venue to venue, and anchoring the event on the mini-corps competition. There is no space large enough on City Dock to hold the mini-corps competition. That led us back to the stadium and its facilities. Jeff My first post since coming back from Annapolis. In short: THANK YOU to everyone involved. Transplanting this event from a six-year Rochester stay to a completely different area (one with pretty much zero DCA ties) seemed like a tall-order, but you all made it happen. My only issue was with I&E. City Dock would've been great (for the reasons you highlighted). I understand the reasoning for bringing it to the stadium, and I even enjoyed having a first look at the grounds before prelims. But going from Rochester's downtown to a closed-off stadium with limited indoor facilities was quite a change. What didn't help at all was the lack of signage and the "bare-bones" feel of it (a couple of information booths and some concessions). The mini-corps competition looked to be the deciding factor, though, and the crowd turn-out was pretty good. Basically, if I&E stays on stadium grounds (if it even continues), it would be nice to have something there to give it more of a "festival" atmosphere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John H Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Especially if we do the "DCA at the Docks" concerts on Thursday night like this year. I wonder if mini-corps directors/designers would be amenable to keeping their drill inside the dimensions of the City Dock stage, if they knew early on that the finals would be there? Having played at the Dock twice on Thursday, with Minne-Brass and with MBI, the idea of doing a mini corps contest there troubles me. Minne-Brass fit on the stage with a certain amount of room left over, so it's conceivable that VERY limited drill could be accommodated. Okay, we tweak the gig expectations so the mini corps don't do a bunch of movement. More notes, louder music, cool. From the performers perspective, no sweat. The far bigger problem with doing mini corps at the Dock stage would be that the area available around the stage isn't even NEARLY big enough to accommodate the size of the crowd that shows up normally to watch the mini corps. I'm thinking about the size of the crowd that was there watching Thursday night, the various trees and obstructions that blocked off A LOT of views in that area, and comparing it to the size of the crowd at the contest Friday night. I don't see any way that that number of people can jam into the stage area and have anything like a satisfying listening or viewing spectator experience. I'm sorry to dump cold water here, but I truly don't see the Dock stage as a satisfactory performance space for the kind of crowd that typically wants to be there for mini corps. Perhaps if the parking area right next to it were cleared out and THAT space was set up? I could see that maybe working. Put up a stage on one side, and bring in a bunch of chairs? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Why do you dump all over my posts? end of discussion? Is that just for you or for all of us? I am giving you a big fat BTW: I&E could be termed a loss leader. It certainly is an event that draws a crowd. DCA might not net the big dollars in the win column, but the enthusiasm for the event draws many to Championships a day early. That equals more hotel nights, more room taxes, more parking and concession revenues, and happy Visitor's Associations. I think the Convention Center was a throw in from Rochester as a thank you for bringing the weekend event and having it live up to expectations. Whether or not there was a split of the food and beverage revenue on site, I dont know. I'm doubting it was run at a big loss. But even if it ran underwater, it was a justifiable expense that likely netted out in some way. Edit: Someone minused me. I bet i know who I will give myself a to make myself feel better. I dont dump all over your posts...just the ones I feel like replying to. get over it, I'm not losing sleep over red marks or thumbs down. I'm looking at this from a pure financial standpoint. DCA isn't in a position to throw tons of money out for an event they make none on. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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