Slingerland Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 9 minutes ago, DCI-1983-91 said: I'm sure they are, and DCI, too. DCI operated for 50 years with no policies or protections for the treatment of minors. It wasn't what they were charged with doing. DCI was designed by the founders to be a marketing corporation, not a governing body that had power to intervene in the internal operations of the member corps. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCI-1983-91 Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, DCI-1983-91 said: I'm sure they are, and DCI, too. DCI operated for 50 years with no policies or protections for the treatment of minors. Almost 50 years. In the past 5-10 years, DCI has improved a lot in this area. Here's a thought: I think the primary factor to make a Federal criminal case (sex trafficking, child pornography, etc) of minors is interstate travel? "Across state lines", as they say? Well, a lot of state lines have been crossed in the era of the DCI tour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCI-1983-91 Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, Slingerland said: It wasn't what they were charged with doing. Well, in this lawsuit, the rep from Cadets Arts Entertainment is saying differently, arguing that DCI as governing body has culpability. And an expert witness will argue the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllianaLancerContra Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 1 hour ago, JimF-LowBari said: Wonder if any other corps are looking at this and thinking about crap that went on years ago…. 😱 The other part of the equation is statutes of limitations in jurisdiction where Corps is based. The Cadets was the tip of the perfect storm, with MeToo movement leading to temporary suspension of SoL. Different states have different rules. This will likely limit legal actions, but from a moral standpoint yes, Corps should be thinking about, and ashamed, of what went on in the past. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slingerland Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 Just now, DCI-1983-91 said: Well, in this lawsuit, the rep from Cadets Arts Entertainment is saying differently, arguing that DCI as governing body has culpability. And an expert witness will argue the same. The DCI bylaws that governed how much input and power DCI had over individual member corps from the era when the alleged assault took place would not support that assertion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimF-LowBari Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, HockeyDad said: Well, you know, DCI didn’t have authorization to do anything unless it was given to them by the corps directors. DCI is the corps and can’t enact any regulations on its own and all that. Apparently DCI is the organization that schedules the tour and lines up the judges and that’s it. We will find out whether the legal system agrees. Question I would have is what might have been reported to a corps and/or DCI and basically ignored. Don’t need a policy saying “no abuse” to be held liable for that IMO Edited November 18, 2023 by JimF-LowBari 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCI-1983-91 Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 1 minute ago, IllianaLancerContra said: The other part of the equation is statutes of limitations in jurisdiction where Corps is based. Which several states have passed laws to change in the advent of #MeToo. I don't know about the Federal criminal statute of limitations has changed? But if it has, it seems that would really open up a window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimF-LowBari Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, IllianaLancerContra said: The other part of the equation is statutes of limitations in jurisdiction where Corps is based. The Cadets was the tip of the perfect storm, with MeToo movement leading to temporary suspension of SoL. Different states have different rules. This will likely limit legal actions, but from a moral standpoint yes, Corps should be thinking about, and ashamed, of what went on in the past. I had SoL in mind too. But as we have seen the limit can be changed. That’s why I was thinking corps looking over their shoulders 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCI-1983-91 Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, JimF-LowBari said: Question I would have is what might have been reported to a corps and/or DCI and basically ignored. In this lawsuit against the Cadets, there's no assertion that the minor reported the abuse to anybody at the time (unless I missed it). But no doubt that will be a factor in some other/future cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCI-1983-91 Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Slingerland said: DCI was designed by the founders to be a marketing corporation, not a governing body Just a marketing corporation, huh? Marketing drum corps as a wonderful activity for young people, on one hand, and then not protect them from abuse, on the other. Obv times have changed. Edited November 18, 2023 by DCI-1983-91 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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