MikeD Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 Disagree. They added some parts to finale from the 5th that were just useless GE moments. That really bothered me.The masterwork was all Shostakovich, very little on the part of PR's arranger. I didn't realize that Shostakovich actually wrote for drum corps. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsar Nikk Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 Disagree. They added some parts to finale from the 5th that were just useless GE moments. That really bothered me.The masterwork was all Shostakovich, very little on the part of PR's arranger. I think I know the section you are talking about, but if so, it's only ONE thing that the arranger changed. You're talking about the added mellophone chromatic triplets near the very end, right? Off the top of my head (other than necessary cuts in the music), I can't think of another spot where the intent of the original is changed. As for your last sentence....well, technically, you're right...but then that also applies to ALL drum corps who are using source material other than original music composed for corps. The masterwork is (and always SHOULD be) on the part of the composer, whereas the arranger can add or detract from the effect (in drum corps terms) based on their skill and their choices. Still, all things being equal...I think Jim Wren did a pretty darn good job with the 1996 Regiment show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_G Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 (edited) for shows post 1990, which I'm frankly more familiar with Star of Indiana 1991 (entire show), 1993 (entire show) Phantom Regiment 1993 (Fire of Eternal Glory), 1996 (entire show), 2003 (Sanctus/Canon) Blue Devils 1992 (When a Man Loves a Woman), 1994 (entire show), 2000 (entire show), 2004 (Concierto de Aranjuez) Santa Clara Vanguard 1998 (entire show), 1999 (The Canyon), 2000 (Stained Glass) The Cavaliers 1995 (entire show), 1998 (Largo, Machine), 2000 (entire show), 2004 (Cuba). I really can't include 2001-03 since those were originals. Glassmen 2001 (entire show) The Cadets 1992 (entire show), 1998 (entire show), 2002 (early season version of "The Place Where Dreams Come True"), 2005 (Dancer in the Dark) Bluecoats 2001 (Red Cape Tango), 2002 (Dancer in the Dark), 2005 (Incantation) Madison Scouts 1995 (Concierto, Malaga), 1999 (entire show) Edited April 6, 2006 by d_grey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssorrell Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 Still, all things being equal...I think Jim Wren did a pretty darn good job with the 1996 Regiment show. Heck, Jim Wren did a good job with EVERY Phantom show he arranged. The guy is/was amazing and his arrangements most times were as close to the original scores as anybody has ever written. There were some Regiment shows that I didn't care for as much as others, but I would always admit that the arrangement of those shows was always incredible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCImonkey Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 I'll give a special nod to "Remembrance" by the 98 Scouts (better than 90 IMO) I really liked Danse Bacchanale that PR performed in 90/91 (was it the same arrangement both years? I forget) I loved the arrangement of Largo from 89 PR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestro767 Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 I loved the arrangement of Largo from 89 PR I love the ride cymbal. Seriously, I really do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom&Phitch Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 I love the ride cymbal.Seriously, I really do. I guess someone has to! :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brakedrum Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 Arrangements: All of Wayne Downey's compositions have been stellar. In the true spirit of jazz, he has taken many non medien pieces and have scored them for contemporary jazz. "Happy Days are here again" in 88 was just brilliant...great variation on a theme. His treatment of the Dan Ellis stuff in 93 was pretty innovative...nothing like the original, but definitely recognizable. His recent work is just super...would like to hear studio ensemble play some of his stuff...he really is talented! Spirit of Atlanta has a blessed history with arrangements: Robert Smith's/Mike Back's arrangement of "Sweet Georgia Brown" for 1986 Spirit was really cool, but it starts beating a dead horse in the ground. Ray Baumgardner (sp?)'s arrangement of "Blues in the Night" was simply spectacular...i hear they will have bits and pieces of it in this year's closer. Of course Jim Ott's "Georgia"...nothing like the original, except for the simple concept...no wonder this is the most played marching band chart of all time. Compositions: A Florida Suite version 1 (1985 Suncoast) by Robert W. Smith...man, that was better than broadway...guy is very talented. his concert band stuff is incredible. 1986's Stan Kenton charts were also neatly arranged...who could forget 88 suncoast and that wonderful array of motifs spread out over the opener. 1988/89 SCV-Phantom...if you have heard the original, you will prefer SCV's symphonic version...they add greatly to the charts. 91 crossmen, although they really werent "arrangements" persée, they were performed with the same intensity and drive as PMG. One would almost think they were specifically composed for corps. A lot of shows werent arranged, but more or less transcribed (like many Cadet shows, Cavies(with exception to the original stuff) and Phantom)...they still performed brilliantly, but not quite fair to give them credit as being "great arrangements"...that would have to fall back to the original composer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vferrera Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 Ray Baumgardner (sp?)'s arrangement of "Blues in the Night" was simply spectacular...i hear they will have Baumgardt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKBari Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 1983 - 1987 Garfield Cadets 1984 - 1985 & 1995 Blue Devils 1985 Suncoast Sound 1985 Troopers 1986 Cavaliers 1991 Crossmen 1991, 1993-1996, 2003-2005 Phantom Regiment Parts of shows that were just plain good Any year Suncoast played "Aquarius" 1984 Phantom's "Scythian Suite" Any Blue Devils' arrangement of "One More Time..." Shows that weren't as technically proficient as the top corps, but the arrangements were good from and entertainment standpoint that I keep them on my iPod simply because I enjoy listening to them. 1989 Florida Wave 1999 Colts 1999 Carolina Crown 1984 Avant Garde 1984 Geneseo Knights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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