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Good question, AzEuph, however I have no idea what the answer is. If I did, I would give you a range of what one might earn as to not disclose anyones exact finances.

People think of cities as being places where corruption, such as drugs, exist. That's not specifically true - anywhere there's adolescents and boredom in the same place is a breeding ground for drugs (my hometown was dubbed by Time Magazine as 'Meth Valley'). My older sister (who marched with the Mello-Dears all-female corps; Owego, NY) saw me sliding in the wrong direction and one fall morning told me she was taking me to Drum Corps prasitse with her so she could keep an eye on me. Instead of going to Mello-Dears rehearsal, we ended up at Grenadiers rehearasal. I remember how much older and cooler the teens there looked compared to me. I remember how intimadating they seemed, how sophistocated. Cathleen (sister) asked around a bit and finally came up with the director, Humbert Godoy. She introduced me and told Mr. Godoy I was going to march (this was the first I'd heard of it). Within seconds, I was in a rehearsal room with a soprano bugle in my hand. At break, several members came over to speak to me. I now know that it changed the direction of my life. I didn't march in a glamorous corps. We were very good (Grenadiers in Southern NY), but not a limelight corps. The following year, my sister cathleen was the DM of the Grenadiers and I was a mellophone.

Between the above reply and your pvt message to me, you don't appear to have a viable answer to a simple question. Nonetheless - I wish The Presidents the best of luck.

? why's that ? just curious.

I respectfully disagree with most of your views, Mr. Hill, however the way and style in which they were presented was terrific. Excellent idea!

CONGRATS! please tell me where the name came from so I can stop thinking of 'Faster Pussycat Kill Kill'.

Nurse!!! He needs his meds again!

sounds like a good excuse for me to get to watch the shows again. sounds like fun. perhaps in another thread, you can take suggestions for what questions should be asked. as well, possibly contact DCI asto what they think would be constructive questions.

that's on of the coolest things I've read on here. Commendable! I would have thought Crown warranted moving up a place or two, but I wasn't on the field in a green shirt so imma decide to trust their placement.

it folded when it refused to keep up.

ya know how LOL means 'laugh out loud' but when ya type it on a board you really haven't laughed out loud. well i literally L'ed OL when i read that... very funny.

EXcellent idea! I love that kind of stuff. great story!

i didn't notice anyone being overly critical.. stating the obvious isn't being critical, is it? actually, i thought it was a good aspect of the show and would have liked to have seen more.

I DVR'd the broadcast, and just watched it for the 5th time.. and no, I did not notice what you allege. Something I did notice - The Cadets were far more amazing than I gave them credit for in Pasadena (and I already gave them a lot). It hit me that it wasn't the actual narration I didn't like, it was that the narration interrupted progressions and 'builds' in the The Cadets show. The narrations brought me, the observer/listener, back to the same place: that place being in awareness of myself. It never allowed me that 'out-of-body' experience. Re; the booing - It was cheap. I thought it then and I think so now. I doubt anyone who had experienced what these young adults experienced would boo anyone at all associated with this esteemed corps (The Cadets). Anyone who truly knows excellence within themselves would never boo. I suspect the boo'ers were people who never really accomplished much in their own drum corps experience.. people who talk the talk but never walked the walk and who regret that they were, and are, content with their own mediocrity. Boo'ers are tin, The Cadets are iron. Next year the boo'ers will be singing the The Cadets praises by pretending to have supported them all along. The Cadets, no doubt, will be gracious and humble while accepting the compliments, but no worries - deep down excellence can always spot mediocrity.

After I notified everyone I thought might care that it was going to air on ESPN2, I posted it a political message board I'm a member of. It was an 11th hour posting but I did get 1 'DC virgin' and 1 former DC DM to watch. Here were the two replies - Cattttt U.S.A. Posts: 9182 (9/6/07 10:47 am) Reply | Edit | Del Re: Drum Corps on ESPN2 we had something going on last night so David *(her husband)* recorded it for me and I watched it when I got home. Ahhh Mick I miss it....it was so, so hard to believe that those where kids between 14 and 21 until they did the one on one interviews. In a way I do miss the old format but I cannot say either is better or worse than the other. The things that matter are still there....the precision, the disipline, the extraordinary teamwork! I was awed. And a comment one kids said stuck with me.....he said he wouldn't be there person he is today with Drum Corps....I guess that fits both of us. nellie j U.S.A. Posts: 6567 (9/6/07 12:17 pm) Reply | Edit | Del Re: Drum Corps on ESPN2 Caught it at 10. I never realised or had in my mind the art and movement. I always thought it to be more uniform. I imagine you would have to be very coordinated, movin sideways up and down and playin instuments at the same time. I was listenin to some of the coaches speak,the one guy who said you could see what was goin on both ends without havin to turn your head "Master of Geometry". Mind blowin! I wouldnt know where to start or stop. Looks like it takes alot of practice and discipline. Were you in the flashbacks? I really liked the thieves and police,the red laser effect and the horses from SC. I really wanted to see more of that one.

I TOTALLY DISAGREE !!! ... i don't want to ride a bus! (other than that, I totally agree.)

Mighty Liberators and who was from Montrose, Pa.???

were they called the 507 Hornets?

AND we had to walk 30 miles in knee-deep snow up a hill (both ways!) to get to the crap seats.... and we were happy to have them!!!

Oh. Dear Crunchy.. So sorry. i was off by nearly 1/30th or 1003 attendees (everyone reading my above post, please subtract 1003 from the numbers I supplied. Thank you.). Still a small-American-town but nonetheless.... p.s. Crunchmeister, not sure what your point was but I'm not Gaelic. I actually am Irish (I'm sure you know the difference but that might be a discussion for a different board .. Omagh.com or something); Republic, thankyouverymuch - Kilmihil, Co. Clare. and you?

Jaysus.. you called me out, ya did. I AM an old codger, no mistaking it ... but I wasn't referring to DCI fans (all 30,000 of them at the Rose Bowl FINALS - why a whole one-small-American-town more than you'll find at one mid-week Lakers Game - erm.. as many as were in the stands at the WNBA game preceding ESPN2's DCI broadcast tonight), I was referring to the general public, ya know.. the millions who had access to tonights program. My guess is (as sad as it is) the ESPN crowd might be a lit-tle larger and mayyyybe a lit-tle younger than the PBS crowd. I got a great idea.. how about we ask Martha Raye and Rip Taylor to plug DCI and we can get thousands of 80 year olds itching to march (or better yet - tap-dance!) in DCI.. or we can get 5 members of 2 corps to go on Family Feud for some REAL exposure. DCI did exactly the right thing. And please.. you know the difference between a Steve Young endorsement and a Rita Mareno endorsement. If not, ask any 16 year old.

I could be WAY off here, but it looks to me like DCI is going to market the 'product' of performance (classes, instructional CD's, and maybe an extended brand of products in co-operation with their long-standing sponsors?). I'm encouraged that DCI is more forward-thinking than I realized.

um hmmm. yeah - Young was all about booing when he said (essentially) that what these youths were doing was remarkable and MORE intense than pro-football. He really set the standard for booing. come ON people... are you so myopic that you can't see how amazing this broadcast was? The bit about the history of the stadium was because it was in the Rose Bowl (annoying as it was with the buzzing of the lights even on ESPN2)... DCI at the Rose Bowl.. can't you not see that? How about they all perform at the base of the Statue of Liberty but don't mention or capitalize on that fact? Great idea, that. The opener started and I was immediately impressed. History correlating to Drum Corp... fecking poetic it was (pardon my Celt)! I mean even the ads were awesome. I Tivo'ed the whole thing. Can't wait to watch it again. And - Maynard Ferguson, Rita Moreno. Now THERE'S a real appeal the the young people... Maynard died last year (I know because I was at his funeral in Ohai) and I hear Rita Moreno and Pink are gonna do a lesbian music-video together. HOT! um-hummm

right.. it would be far better if PBS had aired it and the aspiring young musician (oh wait.. there's also non-musicians we forgot to mention yet-a-freaking-gain, but no one's up in arms about that!) knew he could be yet another ant on the field with no visible distinction between a home town high school band and a drum corps. Now THAT would be lookin at the bigger picture! Which program would you have liked to have seen cut in order to have shown 12 corps? good grief!

WOW.. that post blows me away. I thought I was going to come on and contribute my congrats to DCI for a job superbly done - the show was excellent! It was entertaining, thoughtful, looked new and fresh, and promoted DC with excitement and dignity. If they cut some interviews that didn't read well, more power to them. What's going to reach more people... an interview with a young person who might have been less than effective, or an interview with (NFL'er Young) who's going to reach tens of thousands of prospective members/viewers in 25 seconds? I liked the perspective of the directors... and guess what - not everyone involved with drum corps is 13-21. The PARENTS (financiers) of corps members have the final say at the end of the day, don't they? Whaddya gotta do to please people around here?