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This might be a possibility for my band and my alma mater's band in the next year or two. It's convenient that my roommate is now the band director there, and that we're both in the same size classification. (the collaborative mega-show, not the changing of the pants.)

Four words, 1 number: Two corps, 22 minute show.

Glassmen in 2000, Cadets in 2001 I remember how freakin great it was to see them both out here. And now we get ALLLL of them! Muhahahaha!

Man, I'm banging my head against the wall trying to answer your questions, dude. #### you for appealing to the artists here. Corps COULD move in a WGIlike direction, presenting abstract concepts and exploring them through tons of narration. Relationships between numbers and philosophies could be explored. We could politically interpret, though it would be unethical, I think. We could have a completely serialist drum corps show. THAT could get interesting. We could take a completely different approach to uniforms and costuming, altering the roles of the 3 sections slightly... I don't know.... For every 5 bad ideas I have, I usually have 1 good one. My next thought should be a doozy.

As my mind isn't as daft as those running the greatest marching ensembles in the world, I'm gonna have to leave the speculation to them, at least for tonight. It may be more useful to think of the possibilities that specific corps have the potential to put out there. Honestly, I think the Cadets have been at the forefront of innovation for drum corps. Make no judgment of its quality or its value, except to say that their products recently have been different than everyone else out there. I don't see BD innovating - I really am not all that convinced that they ever really did innovate in terms of show design, though I'm open to being convinced otherwise. All BD does is do what they do AMAZINGLY well. Cavies tickle my eyes like no other corps, but I don't know if it's innovation of show design. Visual design, absolutely! I watch a Cavies show and I see math, for some reason. Maybe its just me wishing I could write for 64 horns, as opposed to some other weird number that you can't make blocks with. While SCV, I think, has struggled slightly to regain its competitive footing since after the 2004 season, I still think the potential is there for them to be innovative. I don't see it happening too soon, though, for fear of completely alienating its fan base. I do think that this years show is conservatively innovative, if there is such a thing. I don't know that I've seen a show with the pacing that SCV's has. Even within movements, there are areas in the music that take longer than your average drum corps to develop towards some kind of resolution. That may be one of the reasons their scores have lagged. For me, I dig it, because that's how the original music is. Phantom will continue to play beautiful music and bring the audience to tears, and that's all. Bluecoats, I think could eventually, but if I was on the board, I would continue to make the kinds of decisions that have hoisted them up over the last few years. Crown has done some interesting things with props and stuff in the past. An interesting possibility is Academy. I don't know that they've yet established a solid identity, and I think that can work in their favor if their goal is to innovate. They have a very capable staff and kids who have the chops to pull some things off. I don't think Academy is interested in being a Colts, or a Spirit, or a Glassmen - a corps that teeters on the verge of finals year after year. I think they EXPECT to make an impact on the activity. In short...I think Cadets is capable of doing whatever they want to right now, SCV in a year or two, and Academy in a year or three. As far as what it is? You pose a wonderful question, bawker....

PR- 87.6 SCV - 87.45 That's my guess for the top 2.

Really, it's all about timing. SaMo to Pasadena...probably like 30 minutes with no traffic (after 8pm), maybe more like 45 midday (10am-2pm) on a weekday, up to 2 hours during rush hour(s) (7a-9a, 3p-7p).

If you want to see a REAL california beach (not a crowded ### coney island type beach, ie Santa Monica or Venice) I really recommend Leo Carrillo. That's the SPOT!

I have space for any SCV alums who want to crash literally 5 minutes on the fwy from the Rose Bowl. PM me if you're interested. Of couse, just because you marched doesn't mean you're not crazy, so I'd like to get to know you a bit first. Heh.

:) You win!

(order implied as not to jinx anything) Dacets Lube Vedils Lavaciers Ganvuard Lubecatso Geriment Wronc Lube Knights (couldn't resist this one) Spread between top 7 will shrink to under 2 points again. Those are mine!

Thirdered!

I think the Olympus Suite on that same CD is suitable as well.

Oooooh, I strongly disagree. Woodwinds can provide an integral texture for the piece. Sometimes there are just some passages that front ensembles just don't do justice to, and I think there would be a lot of those in Rite of Spring. I could see Phantom or SCV doing Grainger's "The Immovable Do".

SCV had a 15 year old in '97 - Dan Pracher

One of my best memories from drum corps was in Warrenton. You around, Laura, Brad?

SCV's score spiked a few nights ago before Allentown also. It's interesting that when they make a big jump there are no other corps in that tier to sort of...verify the validity of the number. Here's to hoping this one is real! GO SCV.

About the 2000 guard, agreed! Hey Mike Hurd, do you have any more pics from that rehearsal? Was that at Riverside King?

M'bube mamayo. also known as "lion sleeps tonight". at the risk of sounding too negative, i feel like i have to say my heart goes out to scouts nation today. getting beat by colts is one thing...they're consistently in that semis bracket, but pacific crest's show design is awful. i'm not talking crap about the kids, theyre performing the show really well. it's just that i was literally angered by elements in the design. what is going on with the scouts?? how can they be losing to pc? is it that with the rise of the cavies, phantom, and the bluecoats, the midwest can only support 3 top notch corps? it makes me sad to see scouts fall upon such hard times. but congrats to the kids in pc. i'm not trying to put them down - lord knows that design teams sometimes lay eggs and that has nothing to do with the performers themselves.

I, for one, don't think they were overhyped at all. Nobody was saying they were going to win DCI their first year out. And let's face it, this is basically a brand new corps with brand new membership. It's an accomplishment for a corps who had been absent for 10 years to come back in an era that's seeing an overall decrease in corps numbers. I don't know that anyone's expectations were for them to put on a performance with championship maturity. For now, I think it kicks ### that they're out on the field playing some ambitious music. Go VK!

Sometimes when a replacement comes in, they'll pay a prorated fee, other times they'll not pay at all. Once someone fills your spot (if you're injured) you're generally out of the program, unless (I would imagine) if the timing is right and someone else gets hurt.

your email addy kept bouncing it back, so here. i made a few awhile ago but could only find one for some reason.

01 scv (end of show) 96 madison (end of show) 97 scv (closer) 93 star (from "finish it!" to the end) 81 scv (the end of the multi-metered part in ypg) and yeah...lots more.

I have a few...shoot me a PM with your email address and I'll send 'em.

I believe Dean Westman also did some in the early 00's. Key Poulan started with the corps in 2003.