lindap Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 I've been sitting at home all day sick with the flu. The only real up-side to that is that while sitting at home I've been watching some great drum corps. This being a luxury I barely have time for any more. But getting to the point, I began thinking a lot about creativity and what it means to me. With all the talk over the past few years amongst the board of directors on rules about creativity, it made me come to the following dilemma:What's more creative? Finding a new way to present an idea using the same tools you've always had, or finding new tools that fit your idea? To me the answer came quickly. New presentation, same tools. I'll use an example of something we all have in common here...music. Take for instance, a great piano player. Now this particular piano master writes his own material as well as works for other pianists. Just like many great player/composers before him he has his trusty piano. And there, before him, lay a set number of keys that all respond to a set pitch. Instead of saying, "this isn't enough to work with", he says, "I'm going to write a piece using these notes before me the likes of which no one has seen or heard. And then we get something new. Just like Chopin and Gershwin used the same tools, but came away with works so characteristic to themselves. Another point to ponder is that when you try to bend the rules of the game so that you can get away with more, you loose an exciting aspect. It's only truely that much more exciting when we come, knowing what we've heard and seen in the past and being blown away with something totally unexpected. Now I know there are things to be said about adding new ways of doing things and what it has done for the activity. And I whole heartedly believe that if it is your prerogative to push said bounds then that is in your right. And if that pushing gets you what you want, then great. I merely submit to this community a humble opinion. My only goal of which, is to see if theres anyone else out in the pages of DCP that might agree, or even open my eyes to something I hadn't yet though of. Thanks. Hope you are feeling better from the flu. May I quote you, "New presentation, same tools." I cannot express creativity through words, perhaps an odd bit of poetry. I'm of visual mind but enjoy music. When I experience a creative moment it's usually combined with audio, visual and emotion that causes me to be speechless until I can try to understand and discuss why. Creativity is using a tool for an unexplained but delightful moment or exploring dynamics or the element of surprise. IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lindap Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 (edited) John Cage is truly creative. He did all kinds of interesting things to pianos and other standard orchestral instruments to make them sound different. I think that if DCI show designers started doing the same type of experimentation, all of the hate change crowd would start begging for snyths and MalletKats instead. Synthesizers and bagpipes, someplace else now, where did i put my glasses... Edit: AAG reunion CD has synths and pipes prior to 77...they were at Philadelphia in 75...it's ok to experiment but within the genre... Edited February 11, 2008 by lindap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euponitone Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 John Cage is truly creative. He did all kinds of interesting things to pianos and other standard orchestral instruments to make them sound different. I think that if DCI show designers started doing the same type of experimentation, all of the hate change crowd would start begging for snyths and MalletKats instead. I think that would be awesome actually. Percussive sounds with brass instruments? More crazy sounds in the pit? Sounds good to me, Honestly, who's going to be shocked when they hear crazy sounds coming out of a synth.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Haha. I'd actually be okay with it, too. I'm just saying, DCI fans who consider themselves purists have nothing on how some classical music purists react to creativity like Cage's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAMystreaux Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 SCV got their Miss Saigon helicopter sound effects idea from Beyer High School in Modesto, CA who did "Miss Saigon" the year before SCV. You mean SCV's Miss Saigon show is a copy from a high school band?!!! OMG!!! The horror!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvertrombone Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 You mean SCV's Miss Saigon show is a copy from a high school band?!!! OMG!!! The horror!!! hahahahaha....boy, that blows a whole slew of arguments out of the water, doesn't it??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvs me sum mello! Posted February 11, 2008 Author Share Posted February 11, 2008 You mean SCV's Miss Saigon show is a copy from a high school band?!!! OMG!!! The horror!!! That's not true, that's not true...I'm not listening lalalalalalalalala Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAMystreaux Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 That's not true, that's not true...I'm not listening lalalalalalalalala Yeah, I am waiting for GMichael and crew to show up and denounce SCV and their lack of creative genius. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiodb Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 We are talking about this thread. The comment I made, that was quoted, did not mention any instrumentation, in fact it did not even narrow it down to one medium of expression. It was a general comment about creativity, nothing more. ....but your next post in this thread did.... plus mallets, narration and singing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kusankusho Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Yeah, I am waiting for GMichael and crew to show up and denounce SCV and their lack of creative genius. Corps and bands have been taking show designs from each other for donkey's years. Not a big deal. I really don't care, it's the recent trading of hardware that bothers me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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