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put an inflation calulator link up but nm, it only goes up to 2023

Indeed. Maybe getting a panel with design bona fides to give their thoughts on key elements of shows, even if they don't necessarity give a score? That would make it a little more Rotten Tomatoes like rather than just The Voice. No matter what, looks like a fun way to write and read reviews. That's kind of fallen off on here.

that's a good idea. would love to see it split into critic/expert reviews and audience reviews like RT.

it's really sad to me because glisses can be fantastic effects when done with integrity and true artistic intentionality. Like in Mackey's The Frozen Cathedral. You hear the bones gliss in that piece and you can almost see sluffs/avalanches on Denali.

me neither.

many years. started on visual staff with vanguard in the mid 80s. was the visual caption head for SCV's wins in 89 and 99. he also wrote incredible drill for seattle's best show ever in 2002 when they made finals, which was a cool moment for those of us in the pacific northwest. this is from wikipedia:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myron_Rosander Rosander's other drum corps work includes visual designer for the Blue Stars in 2012, Phantom Regiment in 2010, and Madison Scouts in 2006. He has also designed for the Bushwackers all-age drum corps and many high school bands including L.D. Bell from Hurst, Texas. Rosander served on the DCI Task Force, participated in clinics, and was a judge for Bands of America as well as indoor competitions.

yeah, i remember it was you who had said that before. i've talked to 1 other member who didn't like it either. anyway, back to the 97 vignette, that's still one of my faves. thanks for posting it.

I liked 99 better than 98. Corps member sentiment towards 99 was ambivalent IIRC.

When an instrument is playing the melody for entire sections of a show, i don't consider it a little add on. I do feel like most shows have featured non-brass the the way you describe, but several of them i'd have loved to have heard on brass.

1997 was big for me. the "fog" effect of wavy lines coming into focus out of what appears to be total randomness 2 counts before they hit the drums literally running in circles around each other for me, the appeal of his drill is how organic it always feels and always 100% in service to the music. he never sacrificed servicing the music with being flashy just to be flashy.

Everybody will LOVE the BK flautist flutist or whatever they're called.

Ben Affleck is an Oscar-winning megastar. Him even being in a casino is "free advertising and exposure". Yet Vegas casinos have banned him from playing blackjack because he counts cards and beats the house edge. His mere presence could literally bring millions in action to a high-stakes table over several hours, yet they choose to ban him. Bending that black book rule might generate more revenue for them than they lose on that night. There are very valid and specific reasons why they did go through with the ban if you think about it, though. Not a perfect analog here by any means, but plenty of antecedents that line up. And think about this figure skating guy who did minions music. Universal didn't get a dime off it up front and if they had just let it go for "free advertising and exposure", I'd say they're run by complete morons. It's a 25th-place performance only available on Peacock five hours before medal contenders start skating on anything nationally or internationally televised, and some fools really think that was going to generate more revenue than by having the skater pay for the rights. Universal likely got more clicks to Minions music on Spotify when they made it an international headline by saying no.

nm, dino mode deactivated.

is there a specific content category that takes into account difficulty and achievement regarding "lining up tricky passages, lining up cold attacks/front to back moments, etc? Or is that accounted for under "rep" with GE?

I was the kid listening to Williams and Horner soundtracks while everybody else was listening to Kriss Kross and Nirvana. 🙂 I would still love to hear a corps do a couple of cues from Horner's "Search for Bobby Fischer" soundtrack. And "Krull".

My opening post to this thread however many years ago has Low Symphony by Glass as a suggestion.

yeah, that makes sense

fantastic example of appeal to authority. i wish there was a way to get comments from corps directors about whether or not they think randomizing 88 style would be a "blow up" or not. they're the ones who'd vote on it.

The people who need to understand this never will. For IP creators who still hold rights to their own work, you don't get to tell them what to do with it. You may like the idea of your work featured in the Olympics for free, but everybody is not you. Composers like Maslanka were probably offered very attractive financial compensation for the use of their work, but it wasn't what he wanted to see done with his IP. Creative types can be fiercely protective of their labors of love. When it comes to corporations seeking out copyright violations, remember that somebody created an IP and CHOSE to sell it to another entity, whether it be a corporation or whatever else. That entity gets to choose who can use it and for what price. Period.

drum corps and figure skating represent an infinitesimal mote of the extent to which copyright/ip law impacts content creators and other creatives. and I rarely think the entities holding IP rights are in the wrong when they go after creatives who use IP's they own for free or without permission.

by finals, i agree. early in the season it's actually kind of blatant how they use placements from the previous season to influence scores/placements at the first several shows. i understand some bliss ninnies will claim it doesn't happen, though lol. i don't care if they change it to 88 style with judging. it's all pretty silly no matter what.

And come to think of it, BK actually played that exact cue in their 93 show. I don't remember how they orchestrated that baritone/piccolo bit though, or if they even played that part of it.

On Horner's Star Trek II soundtrack, one of the cues has full minute of a piccolo/baritone duet playing exactly the same thing 2 octaves apart. It sounds really weird but really cool.

not a fad. wouldn't be surprised if we hear a mic's mixed woodwind ensemble sometime in the near future. i loathe it, but the good news is that I still think it'll be impractical to march entire sections of woodwinds. good reeds are $3 apiece or more nowadays and you're lucky to get 3 good reeds in a box of 10...can maybe stretch that to 4 or 5 if you have somebody who's good with sandpaper and clipper. good clarinet players aren't going to want to play on composite any more than good arrangers would want to hear their work sounding nasty with those instruments. and maintaining springs, screws, and pads on ww is quite a bit more expensive than brass maintenance. i feel like corps have been pretty restrained and intentional with they feature non-brass instruments. doesn't mean i like it, but since it's not a fad and I still like most of what I see and hear, I guess I'd better get used to it.

If it's 100% student-led and no pressure or stigma attached to non-participation, I could understand. Seems pretty implicit that it's an expectation of rookies if it's called rookie talent. I"m sure some "adults" will try to rationalize it, and any who do are part of the problem. If it's institutionalized in any way, that should be abolished. If there's body stuff involved, then it should be a no-go. Supervision for that makes it even more idiotic.