NanciD Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 (edited) http://tinyurl.com/2e2udz Another picture and the write up are listed on the right side. Enjoy! PS: Breakdown sheet is on page 3 of this thread Post #22. Edited April 3, 2008 by NanciD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbalaya Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 Thanks Nanci........any wonder why we abandoned AL and VFW????? Or, better yet, why they abandoned and abrogated their duty to judge in an unbiased manner???? Look back to '63 Miami.......one brass judges sheet changed. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donincardona Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 that was an unbeleivable show. every senior corps with the exception of the crusaders thought they won. i was on the sidelines as i was to young to march but i traveled with rochester and and thought sky had won but i really couldn't tell. every corps was great that night. it was to say the at least a very interesting set of event's. what a night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYSkyliner Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 Thanks Nanci........any wonder why we abandoned AL and VFW????? Or, better yet, why they abandoned and abrogated their duty to judge in an unbiased manner???? Look back to '63 Miami.......one brass judges sheet changed.J Phil Ma"who"? in '63. A drum judge from Glenshaw, Pa. in '65. And who came out smelling like a rose in both AL Nats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbalaya Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Funny thing Mike. Yes, it was Phil's sheet, but Rip spoke with him at length some years later and he swore that the changed figures were not his doing and that he too had Archie first in brass. I believe that, given Rip's experience and cynicism about that event, Phil was being truthful. Someone who had access to the scoresheets, erased those figures and replaced them with figures having us in, I believe, 11th place. I don't know the who or the why. I don't care. I grew up a bunch in those hours before and after finals. Years later, while working as investigative engineer, the president of the firm imparted a basic tennet of our duties........"don't trust anyone....even your mother." I guess that sums it up. erfaquote name='NYSkyliner' date='Mar 23 2008, 01:55 PM' post='2182373'] Phil Ma"who"? in '63. A drum judge from Glenshaw, Pa. in '65. And who came out smelling like a rose in both AL Nats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fecontra Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 That evening in 1966 will always remain one of the greatest times I have ever had in my life. Listening to the Fleetwood album you can hear the intensity of the crowd, which was unreal by any standards. The senior scoring hanky panky in those days was unreal, if memory serves me correct at some point around that time the Hurricanes unsheathed a " Giant Screw Banner " at retreat of one contest to register their feeling on the scoring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYSkyliner Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 The senior scoring hanky panky in those days was unreal, if memory serves me correct at some point around that time the Hurricanes unsheathed a " Giant Screw Banner " at retreat of one contest to register their feeling on the scoring Yeah, it was "funny" evening for scoring. 8 point spread (that's 80 ticks, a mighty sum back in the day) between the 2 execution drum judges for Skyliners. Hurcs taking high horns, high drums and tied for high execution M&M,.....and coming in second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbalaya Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Yeah, go figure..........regarding Archies situation.....that wast he begining of that special award" "The Royal Order of the Shaft with Green and Purple Ribbons" Yeah, it was "funny" evening for scoring. 8 point spread (that's 80 ticks, a mighty sum back in the day) between the 2 execution drum judges for Skyliners. Hurcs taking high horns, high drums and tied for high execution M&M,.....and coming in second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukecornwell Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Phil Ma"who"? in '63. A drum judge from Glenshaw, Pa. in '65. And who came out smelling like a rose in both AL Nats? " Phil Ma " was the horn instructor for OLPH Ridgemen when I joined them in 19_ _. Forget about the year but it was a Long time ago. I haven't seen his name in many years and it just brought back some memories. I think we are talking about the same guy, are we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbalaya Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 You bet Joe. He was much maligned for that alleged intentional dump. Based on Rip's read I think Phil was innocent. Just my 2 cent. Hope all is well. " Phil Ma " was the horn instructor for OLPH Ridgemen when I joined them in 19_ _. Forget about the year but it was a Long time ago. I haven't seen his name in many years and it just brought back some memories.I think we are talking about the same guy, are we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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