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OK, I have a couple of "etiquette" questions for everyone based on a couple of things I saw at Finals. (Never mind the ever-present, ever-inane "they're always ready"...that's a different rant.)

Last night there was a guy up in 641 (where I was) who kept a running commentary going on everything that was going on. He wasn't being obnoxious or overly loud, but he was pretty distracting. He left for a few minutes to get a drink or something and one of the guys in front of me said, somewhat confrontationally, that the guy needed to be quiet if he was going to come back. Personally, I was grateful for the guy's courage to say something - I couldn't have done it. So, what do you do in a situation like that?

Situation number 2. Tonight in section 140 there were a couple of guys "squatting" - that is, sitting in seats other than the ones for which they had tickets - down the row from me. Just before SCV came on (over halfway through the show), the guy who actually owned those tickets came in and wanted his seats. The guys in them refused to give them up. Now, it would have been pretty disruptive to have them get out of a filled row to give up the seats, but I thought that the squatters should have yielded to the guy who paid for those tickets.

So, here's the question - who's right in this case? Do the squatters have the right to stay there because the guy who actually owned the seats came in so late? If so, what's the cutoff where it's understood that you no longer have a right to your seat? Or should they have given up the seats they didn't buy and go back to their own? I'm thinking the latter but would like to hear other points of view.

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OK, I have a couple of "etiquette" questions for everyone based on a couple of things I saw at Finals. (Never mind the ever-present, ever-inane "they're always ready"...that's a different rant.)

Last night there was a guy up in 641 (where I was) who kept a running commentary going on everything that was going on. He wasn't being obnoxious or overly loud, but he was pretty distracting. He left for a few minutes to get a drink or something and one of the guys in front of me said, somewhat confrontationally, that the guy needed to be quiet if he was going to come back. Personally, I was grateful for the guy's courage to say something - I couldn't have done it. So, what do you do in a situation like that?

Situation number 2. Tonight in section 140 there were a couple of guys "squatting" - that is, sitting in seats other than the ones for which they had tickets - down the row from me. Just before SCV came on (over halfway through the show), the guy who actually owned those tickets came in and wanted his seats. The guys in them refused to give them up. Now, it would have been pretty disruptive to have them get out of a filled row to give up the seats, but I thought that the squatters should have yielded to the guy who paid for those tickets.

So, here's the question - who's right in this case? Do the squatters have the right to stay there because the guy who actually owned the seats came in so late? If so, what's the cutoff where it's understood that you no longer have a right to your seat? Or should they have given up the seats they didn't buy and go back to their own? I'm thinking the latter but would like to hear other points of view.

It's pretty simple. It's a rental agreement. You buy the seats from the moment the stadium opens until it's over. When you move in is your business. When you leave...also your business. Anyone in those seats is trespassing.

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OK, I have a couple of "etiquette" questions for everyone based on a couple of things I saw at Finals. (Never mind the ever-present, ever-inane "they're always ready"...that's a different rant.)

Last night there was a guy up in 641 (where I was) who kept a running commentary going on everything that was going on. He wasn't being obnoxious or overly loud, but he was pretty distracting. He left for a few minutes to get a drink or something and one of the guys in front of me said, somewhat confrontationally, that the guy needed to be quiet if he was going to come back. Personally, I was grateful for the guy's courage to say something - I couldn't have done it. So, what do you do in a situation like that?

Situation number 2. Tonight in section 140 there were a couple of guys "squatting" - that is, sitting in seats other than the ones for which they had tickets - down the row from me. Just before SCV came on (over halfway through the show), the guy who actually owned those tickets came in and wanted his seats. The guys in them refused to give them up. Now, it would have been pretty disruptive to have them get out of a filled row to give up the seats, but I thought that the squatters should have yielded to the guy who paid for those tickets.

So, here's the question - who's right in this case? Do the squatters have the right to stay there because the guy who actually owned the seats came in so late? If so, what's the cutoff where it's understood that you no longer have a right to your seat? Or should they have given up the seats they didn't buy and go back to their own? I'm thinking the latter but would like to hear other points of view.

Easy answer to the question. The guy who bought the seats can have them, even if he only comes in for retreat. He paid a certain price and has tix with those seats printed on them. He paid for the seats, whether he puts his arse in them or not. The squatters were 100% in the wrong.

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as someone who still has only had to pay at ONE drum corps show (due to marching and only going to a couple shows since marching), i always follow the latter. or, actually, i go and look for other open seats. lol.

i follow this same procedure for sporting events too. the whole "assigned seating" thing is very silly to me, especially if there's open seats in the "better" sections. ya know?

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So, here's the question - who's right in this case? Do the squatters have the right to stay there because the guy who actually owned the seats came in so late? If so, what's the cutoff where it's understood that you no longer have a right to your seat? Or should they have given up the seats they didn't buy and go back to their own? I'm thinking the latter but would like to hear other points of view.

As long as the owners of the seats weren't scrambling in during the first chords of a show, they were right. They paid for the seats and they had a legal right to sit there. Had security been called, they would have escorted the squatters out. But where I was sitting (439) security was pretty unobtrusive (a double edged sword...)

The only possible excuse for the squatters staying there, IMHO, is if leaving would have caused a distraction (i.e. the next show was underway.) Even then, they should have left immediately after the show ended.

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OK, I have a couple of "etiquette" questions for everyone based on a couple of things I saw at Finals. (Never mind the ever-present, ever-inane "they're always ready"...that's a different rant.)

Last night there was a guy up in 641 (where I was) who kept a running commentary going on everything that was going on. He wasn't being obnoxious or overly loud, but he was pretty distracting. He left for a few minutes to get a drink or something and one of the guys in front of me said, somewhat confrontationally, that the guy needed to be quiet if he was going to come back. Personally, I was grateful for the guy's courage to say something - I couldn't have done it. So, what do you do in a situation like that?

Situation number 2. Tonight in section 140 there were a couple of guys "squatting" - that is, sitting in seats other than the ones for which they had tickets - down the row from me. Just before SCV came on (over halfway through the show), the guy who actually owned those tickets came in and wanted his seats. The guys in them refused to give them up. Now, it would have been pretty disruptive to have them get out of a filled row to give up the seats, but I thought that the squatters should have yielded to the guy who paid for those tickets.

So, here's the question - who's right in this case? Do the squatters have the right to stay there because the guy who actually owned the seats came in so late? If so, what's the cutoff where it's understood that you no longer have a right to your seat? Or should they have given up the seats they didn't buy and go back to their own? I'm thinking the latter but would like to hear other points of view.

#1 - I would have almost politely asked the guy to STFU.

#2 - I would have gotten stadium security and had them removed.

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OK, I have a couple of "etiquette" questions for everyone based on a couple of things I saw at Finals. (Never mind the ever-present, ever-inane "they're always ready"...that's a different rant.)

Last night there was a guy up in 641 (where I was) who kept a running commentary going on everything that was going on. He wasn't being obnoxious or overly loud, but he was pretty distracting. He left for a few minutes to get a drink or something and one of the guys in front of me said, somewhat confrontationally, that the guy needed to be quiet if he was going to come back. Personally, I was grateful for the guy's courage to say something - I couldn't have done it. So, what do you do in a situation like that?

i tell the guy to shut up

Situation number 2. Tonight in section 140 there were a couple of guys "squatting" - that is, sitting in seats other than the ones for which they had tickets - down the row from me. Just before SCV came on (over halfway through the show), the guy who actually owned those tickets came in and wanted his seats. The guys in them refused to give them up. Now, it would have been pretty disruptive to have them get out of a filled row to give up the seats, but I thought that the squatters should have yielded to the guy who paid for those tickets.

So, here's the question - who's right in this case? Do the squatters have the right to stay there because the guy who actually owned the seats came in so late? If so, what's the cutoff where it's understood that you no longer have a right to your seat? Or should they have given up the seats they didn't buy and go back to their own? I'm thinking the latter but would like to hear other points of view.

i tell the ####ers to move or i get security to move them

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as someone who still has only had to pay at ONE drum corps show (due to marching and only going to a couple shows since marching), i always follow the latter. or, actually, i go and look for other open seats. lol.

i follow this same procedure for sporting events too. the whole "assigned seating" thing is very silly to me, especially if there's open seats in the "better" sections. ya know?

Man...I miss those days of getting in free to any show! Wish DCI had some kind of Alumni discount or something...

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Situation number 2. Tonight in section 140 there were a couple of guys "squatting" - that is, sitting in seats other than the ones for which they had tickets - down the row from me. Just before SCV came on (over halfway through the show), the guy who actually owned those tickets came in and wanted his seats. The guys in them refused to give them up. Now, it would have been pretty disruptive to have them get out of a filled row to give up the seats, but I thought that the squatters should have yielded to the guy who paid for those tickets.

Man oh man what a bunch of complete ******* pulling that crap. That is so so wrong on many levels. I would have ripped them a new one, I really just don't get people sometimes. That type of thing could have been a big blowout....ughh

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Tonight was the best behaved crowd I've ever sat around! PERIOD! AWESOME!

#1, hopefully you have a real ##### sitting around you that will tell that person to STFU.

#2, If the guy came back during the show, he was wrong for entering the seats at that time. He has the rights to the seats, but sqatters getting up midshow is really distracting. I say if you aren't in your seats by the time the show starts, then you should wait outside in the tunnel, then come in and move the guys later.

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