Suviduvi Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 Is the winner "picked" by who gets the higest score at the beggining of the year? based on how many shows you do, you can only get so many points during the season, so does "the first time out" score determine who is going to win? is it all fixed from that point on? enquiring minds need to know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skewerz Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 (edited) west coast always has the highest "starting" scores... BD has 13 wins... coinkadink? /dons his asbestos gear..hehe Edited August 12, 2009 by skewerz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kansasDC Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 Is the winner "picked" by who gets the higest score at the beggining of the year?based on how many shows you do, you can only get so many points during the season, so does "the first time out" score determine who is going to win? is it all fixed from that point on? enquiring minds need to know... No, the winner is not always chosen by the first scores. But in modern scoring, the final "groups" are usually pretty much determined. No more 1989 Suncoast, where they started with a 54.9, behind Crossmen, Dutch Boy and Florida Wave, and wound up in 9th in semifinals with a 90.2, beating those corps by 5 - 10 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
va9590jm Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 Is the winner "picked" by who gets the higest score at the beggining of the year?based on how many shows you do, you can only get so many points during the season, so does "the first time out" score determine who is going to win? is it all fixed from that point on? enquiring minds need to know... Its also interesting to note that for a number of corps, the point spread between them was about the same or within a point difference from the beginning of the season to the end, yeah it did fluctuate some on random nights, but overall, stayed pretty consistent. (more so in the corps not in the top 5-6, than those in) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soccerguy315 Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 (edited) ranking based on first show / corps / first show date ------ final score / final ranking / improvement / improvement ranking 1. Blue Devils - 76.1 ..(6/20)--------------- 99.05 (1) +22.95 (3) 2. Cavaliers - 75.1 ....(6/20)---------------- 96.15 (4) +21.10 (9) 3. Bluecoats - 74.9 ....(6/23)--------------- 93.15 (6) +19.20 (11) 4. Cadets - 74.6 ........(6/19)--------------- 97.20 (3) +22.60 (t4) 5. Vanguard - 74.2 ....(6/20)--------------- 95.65 (5) +21.45 (8) 6. Crown - 73.4 .........(6/19)--------------- 97.50 (2) +24.10 (1) 7. Phantom - 72.7.......(6/20)--------------- 89.90 (9) +17.20 (15) 8. Blue Knights - 70.6 (6/23)--------------- 86.45 (11) +15.85 (t18) 9. Boston - 68.9 ........(6/19)---------------- 90.70 (7) +21.80 (6) 10. Blue Stars - 66.2....(6/20)--------------- 90.05 (8) +23.85 (2) 11. Academy - 66.0 .....(6/20)-------------- 83.75 (14) +17.75 (14) 12. Glassmen - 66.0 ....(6/19)-------------- 87.75 (10) +21.75 (7) 13. Troopers - 65.5 ......(6/23)-------------- 85.10 (12) +19.60 (10) 14. Jersey Surf - 64.7 ...(6/30)------------- 78.55 (20) +13.85 (21) 15. Crossmen - 63.8 .....(6/25)------------- 81.65 (16) +17.85 (13) 16. Mandarins - 63.8 ....(6/20)-------------- 79.65 (18) +15.85 (t18) 17. Scouts - 63.7..........(6/20)-------------- 82.40 (15) +18.70 (12) 18. Spirit - 63.7............(6/20)-------------- 80.45 (17) +16.75 (16) 19. Pac Crest - 63.2 .....(6/20)-------------- 79.05 (19) +15.85 (t18) 20. Colts - 63.0 ...........(6/19)--------------- 85.60 (13) +22.60 (t4) 21. Cascades - 62.5 .....(7/3)---------------- 74.95 (22) +12.45 (22) 22. Pioneer - 59.1.........(6/21)-------------- 75.75 (21) +16.65 (17) gives you some idea... as you can see the first shows varied in date, so the scores aren't good to see how the corps ranked on a certain day, but they are comparable as "what did each corps score out of the gate?" Edited August 12, 2009 by soccerguy315 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexL Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 (edited) Crown winning the 'most improved' award... bs #2. i believe they were #1 last year. interesting, top 2 finishes 2 yrs in a row. Edited August 12, 2009 by alarson83 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitedawn Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 i don't necessarily think the champion is predetermined, but the top tier certainly is. dci titles are won and lost in march and april. it is clear on june 20 who has "the" shows, and who doesn't. that said, you tell me *right now* who is judging 2010 finals, and i'll tell you who is going to win, with a reasonable degree of certainty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRASSO Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 (edited) Its also interesting to note that for a number of corps, the point spread between them was about the same or within a point difference from the beginning of the season to the end, yeah it did fluctuate some on random nights, but overall, stayed pretty consistent. (more so in the corps not in the top 5-6, than those in) 6/26/08 Boston beats Blue Stars 6.260 points 8/09/ 08 Blue Stars beat Boston 3.150 points 6/26/09 Phantom Regiment beat Boston 6.200 points 8/09/09 Boston beat Phantom Regiment .800 points These are Corps in the 7-9 placement range. This is actually where one sees the MOST volatility in scores among the Top 10 most years from the starrt of the season to the end. Edited August 12, 2009 by BRASSO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRASSO Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 (edited) Crown winning the 'most improved' award... bs #2. i believe they were #1 last year. interesting, top 2 finishes 2 yrs in a row. Crown is not even close to the" most improved " award. Crown moved up 2 positions, and with a 1.4 point increase in score at Finals over 2008 's score at Finals. The " most impoved " award goes to the Troopers. The Troopers moved up 4 positions to make the Finals for the 1st time in over 20 years, and increased their point scoring from 2008 to 2009 by more than 3 times that of Crown's point improvement from last year. Edited August 12, 2009 by BRASSO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexL Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 Crown is not even close to the" most improved " award. Crown moved up 2 positions, and with a 1.4 point increase in score at FinalsThe " most impoved " award goes to the Troopers. The Troopers moved up 4 positions to make the Finals for the 1st time in over 20 years, and increased their point scoring by more than 3 times that of Crown's point improvement from last year. year over year maybe. we're talking from show one to finals in this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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