Lincoln Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I will never understand why Phantom's visual design has been so disrespected the past couple of years. I actually think Phantom's visual design has been gaining a lot more respect lately. There was a post months back with screen captures of their drill throughout their show. Every picture was like art. I also think it was Chaos who commented about Jamey Thompson's ability to integrate the guard in their drill. When you watch their show the guard always seems to be in the right place as opposed to off in a corner as some sort of visual afterthought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaos001 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Agreed. I will never understand why Phantom's visual design has been so disrespected the past couple of years. You can't just look at how many times they jazz run per show. That does not determine difficulty. There is a lot more too it. AGAIN! :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tubabeard42 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 This is what I'm getting from this show so far: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickhaltsforlife Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 AGAIN! :P I'm just full of typing fails lately... really.. who adds the extra 'o' usually people miss the extra "o" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaos001 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 I'm just full of typing fails lately... really.. who adds the extra 'o' usually people miss the extra "o" Still a mistake. :P You had a fragment in a response yesterday. It took all I had not to tell you that your adjective clause was messed up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickhaltsforlife Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Still a mistake. :P You had a fragment in a response yesterday. It took all I had not to tell you that your adjective clause was messed up. Oh relax. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickhaltsforlife Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 I actually think Phantom's visual design has been gaining a lot more respect lately. There was a post months back with screen captures of their drill throughout their show. Every picture was like art. I also think it was Chaos who commented about Jamey Thompson's ability to integrate the guard in their drill. When you watch their show the guard always seems to be in the right place as opposed to off in a corner as some sort of visual afterthought. Yeah.. but not many people recognize that. They see drill that isn't whiplash drill and automatically assume that it is easy. And I've been very vocal on how I disapprove of Leon May's drill for the most part. Some cool stuff to watch. And it is honestly amazing the level they are able to perform their shows, because their drill sets them up for failure in many captions. In fact, I don't think they get the music credit they deserve because of the added environmental demands from the drill. And color guard staging is not one of Leon's strong points. However, Jamey Thompson is one of the best in the game. Gaines was pretty #### good also. I also enjoy Ed Devlin's staging a whole lot, and Crossmen do get credit for that, but the actual dirll for the corps proper is boring as hell. Let's see how many times I can reshape this arc..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaos001 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Yeah.. but not many people recognize that. They see drill that isn't whiplash drill and automatically assume that it is easy. And I've been very vocal on how I disapprove of Leon May's drill for the most part. Some cool stuff to watch. And it is honestly amazing the level they are able to perform their shows, because their drill sets them up for failure in many captions. In fact, I don't think they get the music credit they deserve because of the added environmental demands from the drill. And color guard staging is not one of Leon's strong points. However, Jamey Thompson is one of the best in the game. Gaines was pretty #### good also. I also enjoy Ed Devlin's staging a whole lot, and Crossmen do get credit for that, but the actual dirll for the corps proper is boring as hell. Let's see how many times I can reshape this arc..... Some things to think about: - how often did they stop marching during the show? - how often did they play while marching compared to how often did they play while not marching? - look at the angles they had to march and when they changed sets - if drill is designed correctly, it looks better and works better on the field 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjeffeory Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Total BS. I agree with you chaos001. Phantom's demand was exactly what was required for that show and it wasn't easy. Each show has different demands for sure. There's no need to run all the time if it doesn't serve a purpose and enhance the show. Phantoms drill was great for what they were trying to do and it didn't need to have any more sets to be difficult. Plus, Phantom was actually clean and uniform. People need to stop harping on that BS right now. Also, the corps in the lower third of the top 12 have demanding shows too. Maybe they're not performed as well as the top corps or they're not designed as well. Whatever.... All the shows are difficult. Of course I still contend that Crown's brass is DCI's best, so there's that out there again... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjeffeory Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Every picture was like art. To me, this is how corps should look and how they looked in the past. Each frame was pretty close to art. I think we've given that up a little bit for velocity and number of sets; the balance needs to swing back more towards center again though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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