JKT90 Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 1376712954[/url]' post='3313620']I respect your ideas and you make some valid points. However, the season has already been shortened by one week at the beginning and another week at the end because of schools finishing later and starting earlier. At this rate, we might someday have to start the season at Minneapolis, head to San Antonio, proceed to Atlanta and then forsake Allentown because it's time for the World Championships. And if schools go year-round...(shudder). Why do corps have to stay at high schools? Why can't they stay on college campus', there are many JuCo's, division ii and III universities out there that could house a couple corps at the same time, and why can't the shows be at their campus stadium? If the season is being dictated by when high school starts, it's pretty screwed if schools begin going year round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corpsband Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 (edited) But they (DCI) came up with the moniker; they (DCI) more than imply the sports analogy with both Summer Music 'Games' and Marching Music 'Major League'; and that sports connection is 'exactly' what they (DCI) intended; what part of that escapes you? .....ESPN. Anyone that thinks that the " Major Leagues " branding portion for the marketing wasn't selected for its sports athlete connection has to believe that it was all just a collosal coincidence. I don't think anyone has suggested otherwise. The competitive aspects and the physical demands are certainly "sports-like" aspects of drum corps. No doubt DCI had this in mind as they MARKETED their product. No one here has suggested otherwise. But no where in all of that material is there the suggestion that DCI is a major professional sports league. Don't conflate marketing slogans with operational concepts. I can't believe we're still having this conversation. SO MANY threads on DCP have blown up any parallel between pro sports leagues and DCI and yet posters kept trying to make inept comparisons. Stop it already. DCI is not , never has been, and never will be a professional sport. Edited August 17, 2013 by corpsband Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Dixon Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 it's a musical sport, and the most "professional" of any in its category. They are literally the best in the world at what they do. So parallels do exists. Just not the $$$ parallels - unfortunately. "The Summer Music Games" - anyone remember that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrivateEyeDCI Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 (edited) Its all about managing money. Below I have provided the most recent available documents regarding finances of the majority of this years World Class corps. Additionally, I included Glassmen and Music City, due to recent news and events. Carolina Crown: http://dynamodata.fd..._201212_990.pdf Blue Devils: http://990s.foundationcenter.org/990_pdf_archive/942/942216542/942216542_201112_990.pdf Cadets: http://990s.foundati..._201112_990.pdf Santa Clara Vanguard: http://dynamodata.fd..._201110_990.pdf Bluecoats: http://dynamodata.fd..._201210_990.pdf Phantom Regiment: http://dynamodata.fd..._201109_990.pdf Cavaliers: http://990s.foundati..._201112_990.pdf Boston Crusaders: http://dynamodata.fd..._201209_990.pdf Madison Scouts: http://990s.foundati..._201110_990.pdf Blue Knights: http://990s.foundati..._201109_990.pdf Spirit of Atlanta: http://990s.foundati..._201112_990.pdf Blue Stars: http://dynamodata.fd..._201110_990.pdf Troopers: http://dynamodata.fd..._201111_990.pdf Crossmen: http://990s.foundati..._201109_990.pdf Colts: http://dynamodata.fd..._201109_990.pdf Pacific Crest: http://dynamodata.fd..._201112_990.pdf Glassmen: http://dynamodata.fd..._201209_990.pdf (Note: They are nearly 500K in debt. Research shows they have been deficit spending since around 2005) Music City: http://990s.foundati..._201110_990.pdf (Note: This report is November 1, 2010 to October 31, 2011. They reported a in increase of $40,000 in assets. Without more current documentation, it is hard to determine where all this money went.) Discuss Edited August 17, 2013 by PrivateEyeDCI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corpsband Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 it's a musical sport, and the most "professional" of any in its category. They are literally the best in the world at what they do. So parallels do exists. Just not the $$ parallels - unfortunately. And why did you have to use the quotes on "professional" ? Professional sports = athletes get PAID. Drum corps = participants PAY. Hmmmm,...let's take a moment to consider that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Dixon Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 [/size] And why did you have to use the quotes on "professional" ? Professional sports = athletes get PAID. Drum corps = participants PAY. Hmmmm,...let's take a moment to consider that because - duh - they aren't getting paid doesn't mean they aren't professional quality - or that parallels don't exists. Let's face it if the revenues were better they probably would get paid. The staff does - especially top staff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Dixon Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Its all about managing money. Below I have provided the most recent available documents regarding finances of the majority of this years World Class corps. Additionally, I included Glassmen and Music City, due to recent news and events. Discuss Thanks for sharing - but the link for BD goes to Crown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corpsband Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 because - duh - they aren't getting paid doesn't mean they aren't professional quality - or that parallels don't exists. Let's face it if the revenues were better they probably would get paid. The staff does - especially top staff. Ok I give up. When people start saying "they're professional well but not really professional but if they got paid they would be" DCP has jumped the shark. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Dixon Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Ok I give up. When people start saying "they're professional well but not really professional but if they got paid they would be" DCP has jumped the shark. Geez. I never said that. I said they're parallels. Got it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13strokeroll Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 DCI marketed itself to ESPN. Not to Bravo. Nor to Ovation TV. Not to A & E. Espn is a sports station. Its where we watch athletes in competition, and sports teams in competition. Were you around then ? DCI invested in a televised segment prepared and broadcasted to the world on comparing the heartbeat of a marcher to that of an athlete. They hooked up a drummer with wires to monitor his heartrate at a typical practice run of the program.. They compared the result to an athlete in a competitive sport. Steve Rondinaro had a written script delivered to the audience about how these DCI performers are ( quote ) " like finely tuned athletes '. He utilized all manner of sports phrases, all manner of favorable comparisons to athetes and athletic teams. He still does this on air... presumably with DCI's blessing. They brought former basketball coach Bob Knight on to be interviewed. Former QB Steve Young to be interviwed at DCI Championships. In the recent past, the broadcast has been chock full of subtle ( and not so subtle ) comparisons to sports and athletes and athletic competition. The notion that DCI has not willingly compared itself, and on occasion margeted itself as akin to youth sports, and athletes, flys in the face of reality of what they have actually done in their most recent past re. marketing, branding. The moniker of " Marching Music's MAJOR LEAGUES " was selected by DCI along the same timeline that they were marketing themselves to ESPN. Anyone that thinks that the " Major Leagues " branding portion for the marketing wasn't selected for its sports athlete connection has to believe that it was all just a collosal coincidence. All very true; however, I think most lose the precise distinction between athletics and sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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