FTNK Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Maybe this whole concept is just random words assiciated with Greek and Roman gods thrown together haha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Dixon Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 It's really not that complicated. An analogy foe living your life to its fullest I'm very interested in the scores tonight. I was surprised Tuesday night Cadets were still behind SCV. It will be interesting to see the gap tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Dixon Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 I question the half face make up. Hard to project the human side or experience with that make up. The uniform change is enough. Jmo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PamahoNow Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 For an analogy to "work", the base story must be clear. I guess that's what I have trouble seeing. I think the original story behind Stoned of Statues coming alive would have been cleaver and clear. Trying to add (later) the living of one's live in an authentic was as opposed to something else, seems far fetched. Consider a very clear analogy from recent DCI. Boston's Animal Farm was clear. We "got" it. Even without the "G7" formation. As was the original Animal Farm. Orwell communicated his meaning by a story. Or look at Plato's analogy of the Cave, or Bunyan's Pilgrim's Progress. The overt story is clear and drives you to the meaning. I'm not clear that the overt story in Awakening is clear, and it does not drive you to the meaning. And, indeed, the history of the development of the program illustrates this. The idea of Statues coming to life was the initial idea, the underlying meaning was then developed (or forced upon) an existing show. And all this overlay of gods and such just seems strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Dixon Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 For an analogy to "work", the base story must be clear. I guess that's what I have trouble seeing. I think the original story behind Stoned of Statues coming alive would have been cleaver and clear. Trying to add (later) the living of one's live in an authentic was as opposed to something else, seems far fetched. Consider a very clear analogy from recent DCI. Boston's Animal Farm was clear. We "got" it. Even without the "G7" formation. As was the original Animal Farm. Orwell communicated his meaning by a story. Or look at Plato's analogy of the Cave, or Bunyan's Pilgrim's Progress. The overt story is clear and drives you to the meaning. I'm not clear that the overt story in Awakening is clear, and it does not drive you to the meaning. And, indeed, the history of the development of the program illustrates this. The idea of Statues coming to life was the initial idea, the underlying meaning was then developed (or forced upon) an existing show. And all this overlay of gods and such just seems strange. Oh gosh. You lost me when you brought up the dreadful Boston animal farm production. One of the worst designed programs on this decade. And some of that staff infiltrated and has already been cast off by the Cadets this season and now they've had to spend the past month fixing all the bad drill, guard staging and ineffective clarity of design. The "story" such that it is, is now very clear on the field. And more importantly, the program is selling better on a surface level of good drill and clean movement with great music. Boston lacked all 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PamahoNow Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Oh gosh. You lost me when you brought up the dreadful Boston animal farm production. One of the worst designed programs on this decade. And some of that staff infiltrated and has already been cast off by the Cadets this season and now they've had to spend the past month fixing all the bad drill, guard staging and ineffective clarity of design. The "story" such that it is, is now very clear on the field. And more importantly, the program is selling better on a surface level of good drill and clean movement with great music. Boston lacked all 3. I didn't like the show either, but as an analogy (which was what we were talking about) it worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Dixon Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 I didn't like the show either, but as an analogy (which was what we were talking about) it worked. Not to the crowds I saw it with. But sorry, i do understand the "analogy" in cadets production isn't really clearly defined. I don't think it is meant to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PamahoNow Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Not to the crowds I saw it with. But sorry, i do understand the "analogy" in cadets production isn't really clearly defined. I don't think it is meant to be. You were the one who told me it was an analogy. I just took you seriously. I like the original GH description of the original "Stoned". It was to be a fantasy. As a fantasy I think it would have worked better, but it would have been a different production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Dixon Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 You were the one who told me it was an analogy. I just took you seriously. I like the original GH description of the original "Stoned". It was to be a fantasy. As a fantasy I think it would have worked better, but it would have been a different production. Originally it was loosely based on plays and dance works about statues coming to life. Similar to the Night at the Museum type movies, lots of these stories thru the years. Then Hopkins attend a dance program which used the Awakening idea to the Mackey music and the idea of living as your authentic self became refined. Not meant to be communicated on the field, just as a secondary interpretation. It is what it is. I'm just happy the music sounds great and the visual is catch up. Particularly the rapidly improving guard. I'm interested in how they build on this for 2017. 2015 program was emotionally flat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PamahoNow Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Originally it was loosely based on plays and dance works about statues coming to life. Similar to the Night at the Museum type movies, lots of these stories thru the years. Then Hopkins attend a dance program which used the Awakening idea to the Mackey music and the idea of living as your authentic self became refined. Not meant to be communicated on the field, just as a secondary interpretation. It is what it is. I'm just happy the music sounds great and the visual is catch up. Particularly the rapidly improving guard. I'm interested in how they build on this for 2017. 2015 program was emotionally flat. I'm glad it's coming together as well. Great kids, great music. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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