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16 hours ago, N.E. Brigand said:

Here, in reverse order, is what I believe to be the Prelims performance schedule. The number shown is the average of the two highest scores earned by each corps on the late-season Open Class tour. I have assumed The Company will perform based on their score rather than before or after the other corps. Since they only performed once on the O.C. tour, their average includes their Allentown score.

Just for the record, here are the actual averages used. The Oregon WI scores were tossed because the Sheffield show the same night was rained out. It didn't make any difference for the order, though:

78.563 >> 78.263  Vanguard Cadets

78.157  Blue Devils B

75.394  Legends

73.957  Music City

73.794 >> 72.532  Spartans

71.113  Louisiana Stars

71.075 >> 70.388  Gold

69.425  7th Regiment

68.975  [>> 68.450? or n.a.?] The Company

68.063 >> 67.525  Guardians

67.963 >> 67.025  River City Rhythm

65.775  Southwind

63.900  Raiders

61.400  Colt Cadets

61.163 >> 60.275  Shadow

59.163  Impulse

55.350 >> 54.725  Les Stentors

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As in past years, I will be updating this thread to reflect scores from Open Class and World Class championships, just so the record is complete, but possibly not until next week.

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On 7/3/2017 at 1:22 AM, N.E. Brigand said:

Remember that there are risks inherent in comparing scores from different shows.

AS OF AUGUST 7

1.  80.425 Vanguard Cadets -- Michigan City, IN 8/7 (+1.950 8/5)

2.  79.138 Blue Devils B -- Michigan City, IN 8/7 (+0.375 8/5)

3.  76.225 Legends -- Michigan City, IN 8/7 (-0.013 8/5)

4.  75.488 Music City -- Michigan City, IN 8/7 (-0.725 8/5)

5.  74.863 Spartans -- Michigan City, IN 8/7 (-0.650 8/5)

6.  71.675 Louisiana Stars -- Michigan City, IN 8/7 (+0.275 8/5)

7.  71.275 The Company -- Michigan City, IN 8/7 (-0.175 8/5)

8.  70.625 Gold -- Michigan City, IN 8/7 (+0.150 8/5)

9.  69.825 7th Regiment -- Michigan City, IN 8/7 (-1.525 8/5)

10.  68.125 Guardians -- Michigan City, IN 8/7 (+0.575 8/5)

11.  68.000  Southwind -- Michigan City, IN 8/7 (+0.450 8/5)

12.  66.963 River City Rhythm -- Michigan City, IN 8/7 (-1.112 8/4)

13.  63.050 Raiders -- Michigan City, IN 8/7 (-1.750 8/5)

14.  62.225 Shadow -- Michigan City, IN 8/7 (+0.075 8/5) [14th in O.C. Prelims]

15.  61.200 Colt Cadets -- Michigan City, IN 8/7 (-0.100 8/5) [15th in O.C. Prelims]

16.  59.700 Golden Empire -- Bellflower, CA 7/16 (+1.650 7/15) SEASON COMPLETE (at 7th)

17.  59.100 The Battalion -- Denver, CO 7/15 (+1.400 7/12) SEASON COMPLETE (at 7th)

18.  58.600 Watchmen -- Bellflower, CA 7/16 (+2.100 7/15) SEASON COMPLETE (at 9th)

19.  58.125 Impulse -- Michigan City, IN 8/7 (-0.300 8/5) [16th in O.C. Prelims]

20.  57.400 Heat Wave -- Knoxville, TN 7/19 (+3.450 7/15) SEASON COMPLETE (at 12th)

21.  57.100 Columbians -- Denver, CO 7/12 (-0.200 7/12) SEASON COMPLETE (at 10th)

22.  55.200 Les Stentors -- Michigan City, IN 8/7 (-5.600 8/5) [17th in O.C. Prelims]

23.  50.400 Incognito -- Bellflower, CA 7/16 (+3.050 7/15) SEASON COMPLETE (at 19th)

24.  48.100 Blue Devils C -- Bellflower, CA 7/16 (+1.550 7/15) SEASON COMPLETE (at 21st)

Next show: Open Class Finals in Michigan City on August 8

Updated for Open Class Prelims.

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On 7/3/2017 at 1:22 AM, N.E. Brigand said:

Remember that there are risks inherent in comparing scores from different shows.

AS OF AUGUST 8

1.  80.725 Vanguard Cadets -- Michigan City, IN 8/8 (+0.300 8/7) [1st in O.C. Finals]

2.  79.625 Blue Devils B -- Michigan City, IN 8/8 (+0.487 8/7) [2nd in O.C. Finals]

3.  77.250 Legends -- Michigan City, IN 8/8 (+1.025 8/7) [3rd in O.C. Finals]

4.  76.763 Music City -- Michigan City, IN 8/8 (+1.275 8/7) [4th in O.C. Finals]

5.  75.925 Spartans -- Michigan City, IN 8/8 (+1.062 8/7) [5th in O.C. Finals]

6.  73.213 Louisiana Stars -- Michigan City, IN 8/8 (+1.538 8/7) [6th in O.C. Finals]

7.  72.750 Gold -- Michigan City, IN 8/8 (+2.125 8/7) [7th in O.C. Finals]

8.  72.325 The Company -- Michigan City, IN 8/8 (+1.050 8/7) [1st in I.C. Finals]

9.  72.000 7th Regiment -- Michigan City, IN 8/8 (+2.175 8/7) [8th in O.C. Finals]

10.  70.125 Southwind -- Michigan City, IN 8/8 (+2.125 8/7) [9th in O.C. Finals]

11.  69.737 Guardians -- Michigan City, IN 8/8 (+1.612 8/7) [10th in O.C. Finals]

12.  67.688 River City Rhythm -- Michigan City, IN 8/8 (+0.725 8/7) [11th in O.C. Finals]

13.  64.975 Raiders -- Michigan City, IN 8/8 (+1.925 8/7) [12th in O.C. Finals]

14.  62.225 Shadow -- Michigan City, IN 8/7 (+0.075 8/5) [13th in O.C. Prelims]

15.  61.200 Colt Cadets -- Michigan City, IN 8/7 (-0.100 8/5) [14th in O.C. Prelims]

16.  59.700 Golden Empire -- Bellflower, CA 7/16 (+1.650 7/15) SEASON COMPLETE (at 7th)

17.  59.100 The Battalion -- Denver, CO 7/15 (+1.400 7/12) SEASON COMPLETE (at 7th)

18.  58.600 Watchmen -- Bellflower, CA 7/16 (+2.100 7/15) SEASON COMPLETE (at 9th)

19.  58.125 Impulse -- Michigan City, IN 8/7 (-0.300 8/5) [15th in O.C. Prelims]

20.  57.400 Heat Wave -- Knoxville, TN 7/19 (+3.450 7/15) SEASON COMPLETE (at 12th)

21.  57.100 Columbians -- Denver, CO 7/12 (-0.200 7/12) SEASON COMPLETE (at 10th)

22.  55.200 Les Stentors -- Michigan City, IN 8/7 (-5.600 8/5) [16th in O.C. Prelims]

23.  50.400 Incognito -- Bellflower, CA 7/16 (+3.050 7/15) SEASON COMPLETE (at 19th)

24.  48.100 Blue Devils C -- Bellflower, CA 7/16 (+1.550 7/15) SEASON COMPLETE (at 21st)

Next show: World Class Prelims in Indianapolis on August 10

Updated for Open Class Finals, where all but three corps improved by more than a point, and of those ten, three improved by more than two points, led by 7th Regiment.

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On 7/3/2017 at 1:22 AM, N.E. Brigand said:

Remember that there are risks inherent in comparing scores from different shows.

AS OF AUGUST 10

1.  81.500 Vanguard Cadets -- Indianapolis, IN 8/10 (+0.775 8/8) [1st O.C. Finals; 16th W.C. Prelims]

2.  80.175 Blue Devils B -- Indianapolis, IN 8/10 (+0.550 8/8) [2nd O.C. Finals; 18th W.C. Prelims]

3.  76.800 Legends -- Indianapolis, IN 8/10 (-0.450 8/8) [3rd O.C. Finals; 22nd W.C. Prelims]

4.  74.950 Music City -- Indianapolis, IN 8/10 (-1.813 8/8) [4th O.C. Finals; 24th W.C. Prelims]

5.  74.350 Spartans -- Indianapolis, IN 8/10 (-1.575 8/8) [5th O.C. Finals; 25th W.C. Prelims]

6.  71.563 Louisiana Stars -- Indianapolis, IN 8/10 (-1.650 8/8) [6th O.C. Finals; 28th W.C. Prelims] SEASON COMPLETE (at 6th)

7.  70.100 Gold -- Indianapolis, IN 8/10 (-2.650 8/8) [7th O.C. Finals; 29th W.C. Prelims] SEASON COMPLETE (at 7th)

8.  70.037 The Company -- Indianapolis, IN 8/10 (-2.188 8/8) [1st I.C. Finals; 30th W.C. Prelims]

9.  69.800 7th Regiment -- Indianapolis, IN 8/10 (-2.400 8/8) [8th O.C. Finals; 31st W.C. Prelims] SEASON COMPLETE (at 9th)

10.  68.838 Southwind -- Indianapolis, IN 8/10 (-1.287 8/8) [9th O.C. Finals; 32nd W.C. Prelims] SEASON COMPLETE (at 10th)

11.  67.838 Guardians -- Indianapolis, IN 8/10 (-1.899 8/8) [10th O.C. Finals; 33rd W.C. Prelims] SEASON COMPLETE (at 11th)

12.  65.700 River City Rhythm -- Indianapolis, IN 8/10 (+1.988 8/8) [11th O.C. Finals; 35th W.C. Prelims] SEASON COMPLETE (at 12th)

13.  63.525 Raiders -- Indianapolis, IN 8/10 (-1.450 8/8) [12th O.C. Finals; 36th W.C. Prelims] SEASON COMPLETE (at 13th)

14.  62.000 Shadow -- Indianapolis, IN 8/10 (-0.225 8/7) [13th O.C. Prelims; 37th W.C. Prelims] SEASON COMPLETE (at 14th)

15.  60.925 Colt Cadets -- Indianapolis, IN 8/10 (-0.275 8/7) [14th O.C. Prelims; 38th W.C. Prelims] SEASON COMPLETE (at 15th)

16.  59.700 Golden Empire -- Bellflower, CA 7/16 (+1.650 7/15) SEASON COMPLETE (at 7th)

17.  59.100 The Battalion -- Denver, CO 7/15 (+1.400 7/12) SEASON COMPLETE (at 7th)

18.  58.600 Watchmen -- Bellflower, CA 7/16 (+2.100 7/15) SEASON COMPLETE (at 9th)

19.  57.550 Impulse -- Indianapolis, IN 8/10 (-0.575 8/7) [15th O.C. Prelims; 39th W.C. Prelims] SEASON COMPLETE (at 19th)

20.  57.400 Heat Wave -- Knoxville, TN 7/19 (+3.450 7/15) SEASON COMPLETE (at 12th)

21.  57.100 Columbians -- Denver, CO 7/12 (-0.200 7/12) SEASON COMPLETE (at 10th)

22.  54.725 Les Stentors -- Indianapolis, IN 8/10 (-0.475 8/7) [16th O.C. Prelims; 40th W.C. Prelims] SEASON COMPLETE (AT 22nd)

23.  50.400 Incognito -- Bellflower, CA 7/16 (+3.050 7/15) SEASON COMPLETE (at 19th)

24.  48.100 Blue Devils C -- Bellflower, CA 7/16 (+1.550 7/15) SEASON COMPLETE (at 21st)

Next show: World Class Semifinals in Indianapolis on August 11

No change of rank in World Class Prelims, where the lowest-placing O.C. corps saw their scores drop less than a point, the middle O.C. corps saw their scores drop by one or two points, and the top two corps saw a small increase. All of which seems to suggest numbers management more than anything else. Five corps will make one final appearance for 2017 in W.C. Semifinals.

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On 7/21/2017 at 6:25 PM, N.E. Brigand said:

The seven corps not attending championships have finished their seasons.

So when you want to compare these corps later to those at championships, you should use the following shows as your guideposts:

 

Shoreline, WA –– July 8

--- Golden Empire

-0.250 Columbians

-0.800 The Battalion

 

Denver, CO –– July 15

--- The Battalion

-2.000 Columbians

 

Bellflower, CA –– July 16

--- Blue Devils B

-0.450 Vanguard Cadets

-7.150 Gold

-10.700 Golden Empire

-11.800 Watchmen

-16.700 Impulse

-20.000 Incognito

-22.300 Blue Devils C

 

Knoxville, TN –– July 19

--- Music City

-1.150 Legends

-5.250 Louisiana Stars

-7.550 Southwind

-8.950 Heat Wave

Based on this, I would say that Golden Empire, Battalion, Columbians, Watchmen, and Heat Wave would all have a decent shot of making Open Class Finals if/when they should ever be in a good financial position to extend their seasons. Obviously they can't all make it in! But wouldn't it be cool if there were, say, 25+ Open Class corps (and another 25+ World Class corps) at Championships?

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On 7/3/2017 at 1:22 AM, N.E. Brigand said:

Remember that there are risks inherent in comparing scores from different shows.

AS OF AUGUST 11

1.  81.975 Vanguard Cadets -- Indianapolis, IN 8/11 (+0.475 8/10) [1st O.C. Finals; 16th W.C. Semis] SEASON COMPLETE (at 1st)

2.  80.050 Blue Devils B -- Indianapolis, IN 8/11 (-0.125 8/10) [2nd O.C. Finals; 19 W.C. Semis] SEASON COMPLETE (at 2nd)

3.  76.225 Legends -- Indianapolis, IN 8/11 (-0.575 8/10) [3rd O.C. Finals; 22nd W.C. Semis] SEASON COMPLETE (at 3rd)

4.  74.275 Music City -- Indianapolis, IN 8/11 (-0.675 8/10) [4th O.C. Finals; 24th W.C. Semis] SEASON COMPLETE  (at 4th)

5.  73.475 Spartans -- Indianapolis, IN 8/11 (-0.875 8/10) [5th O.C. Finals; 25th W.C. Semis] SEASON COMPLETE (at 5th)

6.  71.563 Louisiana Stars -- Indianapolis, IN 8/10 (-1.650 8/8) [6th O.C. Finals; 28th W.C. Prelims] SEASON COMPLETE (at 6th)

7.  70.100 Gold -- Indianapolis, IN 8/10 (-2.650 8/8) [7th O.C. Finals; 29th W.C. Prelims] SEASON COMPLETE (at 7th)

8.  70.037 The Company -- Indianapolis, IN 8/10 (-2.188 8/8) [1st I.C. Finals; 30th W.C. Prelims]

9.  69.800 7th Regiment -- Indianapolis, IN 8/10 (-2.400 8/8) [8th O.C. Finals; 31st W.C. Prelims] SEASON COMPLETE (at 9th)

10.  68.838 Southwind -- Indianapolis, IN 8/10 (-1.287 8/8) [9th O.C. Finals; 32nd W.C. Prelims] SEASON COMPLETE (at 10th)

11.  67.838 Guardians -- Indianapolis, IN 8/10 (-1.899 8/8) [10th O.C. Finals; 33rd W.C. Prelims] SEASON COMPLETE (at 11th)

12.  65.700 River City Rhythm -- Indianapolis, IN 8/10 (+1.988 8/8) [11th O.C. Finals; 35th W.C. Prelims] SEASON COMPLETE (at 12th)

13.  63.525 Raiders -- Indianapolis, IN 8/10 (-1.450 8/8) [12th O.C. Finals; 36th W.C. Prelims] SEASON COMPLETE (at 13th)

14.  62.000 Shadow -- Indianapolis, IN 8/10 (-0.225 8/7) [13th O.C. Prelims; 37th W.C. Prelims] SEASON COMPLETE (at 14th)

15.  60.925 Colt Cadets -- Indianapolis, IN 8/10 (-0.275 8/7) [14th O.C. Prelims; 38th W.C. Prelims] SEASON COMPLETE (at 15th)

16.  59.700 Golden Empire -- Bellflower, CA 7/16 (+1.650 7/15) SEASON COMPLETE (at 7th)

17.  59.100 The Battalion -- Denver, CO 7/15 (+1.400 7/12) SEASON COMPLETE (at 7th)

18.  58.600 Watchmen -- Bellflower, CA 7/16 (+2.100 7/15) SEASON COMPLETE (at 9th)

19.  57.550 Impulse -- Indianapolis, IN 8/10 (-0.575 8/7) [15th O.C. Prelims; 39th W.C. Prelims] SEASON COMPLETE (at 19th)

20.  57.400 Heat Wave -- Knoxville, TN 7/19 (+3.450 7/15) SEASON COMPLETE (at 12th)

21.  57.100 Columbians -- Denver, CO 7/12 (-0.200 7/12) SEASON COMPLETE (at 10th)

22.  54.725 Les Stentors -- Indianapolis, IN 8/10 (-0.475 8/7) [16th O.C. Prelims; 40th W.C. Prelims] SEASON COMPLETE (AT 22nd)

23.  50.400 Incognito -- Bellflower, CA 7/16 (+3.050 7/15) SEASON COMPLETE (at 19th)

24.  48.100 Blue Devils C -- Bellflower, CA 7/16 (+1.550 7/15) SEASON COMPLETE (at 21st)

Next show: Billesley (Birmingham) on September 10

Updated through World Class Semifinals. That's the last show for all but one of the corps. I will note The Company's DCUK/DCE scores in September.

Edited by N.E. Brigand
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It seems that some corps' Prelims score is different from different sources. One source says SW got a 69, others a 68

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13 minutes ago, DawsonBurnes said:

It seems that some corps' Prelims score is different from different sources. One source says SW got a 69, others a 68

DCI (the certified source) says 68.000.

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On 7/3/2017 at 1:22 AM, N.E. Brigand said:

Remember that there are risks inherent in comparing scores from different shows.

AS OF SEPTEMBER 10

1.  83.200* The Company -- Billesley, Birmingham, WMD, UK 9/10 (+13.163 8/10) [1st I.C. Finals; 30th W.C. Prelims]

2.  81.975 Vanguard Cadets -- Indianapolis, IN 8/11 (+0.475 8/10) [1st O.C. Finals; 16th W.C. Semis] SEASON COMPLETE (at 1st)

3.  80.050 Blue Devils B -- Indianapolis, IN 8/11 (-0.125 8/10) [2nd O.C. Finals; 19 W.C. Semis] SEASON COMPLETE (at 2nd)

4.  76.225 Legends -- Indianapolis, IN 8/11 (-0.575 8/10) [3rd O.C. Finals; 22nd W.C. Semis] SEASON COMPLETE (at 3rd)

5.  74.275 Music City -- Indianapolis, IN 8/11 (-0.675 8/10) [4th O.C. Finals; 24th W.C. Semis] SEASON COMPLETE  (at 4th)

6.  73.475 Spartans -- Indianapolis, IN 8/11 (-0.875 8/10) [5th O.C. Finals; 25th W.C. Semis] SEASON COMPLETE (at 5th)

7.  71.563 Louisiana Stars -- Indianapolis, IN 8/10 (-1.650 8/8) [6th O.C. Finals; 28th W.C. Prelims] SEASON COMPLETE (at 6th)

8.  70.100 Gold -- Indianapolis, IN 8/10 (-2.650 8/8) [7th O.C. Finals; 29th W.C. Prelims] SEASON COMPLETE (at 7th)

9.  69.800 7th Regiment -- Indianapolis, IN 8/10 (-2.400 8/8) [8th O.C. Finals; 31st W.C. Prelims] SEASON COMPLETE (at 9th)

10.  68.838 Southwind -- Indianapolis, IN 8/10 (-1.287 8/8) [9th O.C. Finals; 32nd W.C. Prelims] SEASON COMPLETE (at 10th)

11.  67.838 Guardians -- Indianapolis, IN 8/10 (-1.899 8/8) [10th O.C. Finals; 33rd W.C. Prelims] SEASON COMPLETE (at 11th)

12.  65.700 River City Rhythm -- Indianapolis, IN 8/10 (+1.988 8/8) [11th O.C. Finals; 35th W.C. Prelims] SEASON COMPLETE (at 12th)

13.  63.525 Raiders -- Indianapolis, IN 8/10 (-1.450 8/8) [12th O.C. Finals; 36th W.C. Prelims] SEASON COMPLETE (at 13th)

14.  62.000 Shadow -- Indianapolis, IN 8/10 (-0.225 8/7) [13th O.C. Prelims; 37th W.C. Prelims] SEASON COMPLETE (at 14th)

15.  60.925 Colt Cadets -- Indianapolis, IN 8/10 (-0.275 8/7) [14th O.C. Prelims; 38th W.C. Prelims] SEASON COMPLETE (at 15th)

16.  59.700 Golden Empire -- Bellflower, CA 7/16 (+1.650 7/15) SEASON COMPLETE (at 7th)

17.  59.100 The Battalion -- Denver, CO 7/15 (+1.400 7/12) SEASON COMPLETE (at 7th)

18.  58.600 Watchmen -- Bellflower, CA 7/16 (+2.100 7/15) SEASON COMPLETE (at 9th)

19.  57.550 Impulse -- Indianapolis, IN 8/10 (-0.575 8/7) [15th O.C. Prelims; 39th W.C. Prelims] SEASON COMPLETE (at 19th)

20.  57.400 Heat Wave -- Knoxville, TN 7/19 (+3.450 7/15) SEASON COMPLETE (at 12th)

21.  57.100 Columbians -- Denver, CO 7/12 (-0.200 7/12) SEASON COMPLETE (at 10th)

22.  54.725 Les Stentors -- Indianapolis, IN 8/10 (-0.475 8/7) [16th O.C. Prelims; 40th W.C. Prelims] SEASON COMPLETE (AT 22nd)

23.  50.400 Incognito -- Bellflower, CA 7/16 (+3.050 7/15) SEASON COMPLETE (at 19th)

24.  48.100 Blue Devils C -- Bellflower, CA 7/16 (+1.550 7/15) SEASON COMPLETE (at 21st)

*DCUK/DCE score

Next show: Widnes (Cheshire) on September 23

As promised, I will update until all corps have completed their season. The Company got a nice score in the West Midlands on Saturday. Is it a realistic score for DCI? Who knows. It has been more than a month. Lots of DCI corps see improvement of more than 10 points in that amount of time.

Edited by N.E. Brigand

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