Terri Schehr Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 7 hours ago, year1buick said: I’m required to keep mine up to date in order to maintain my dental license. I think all drum corps staff should be certified as well. I know I’ve seen stories in the news where kids have died during football practice and none of the coaches knew CPR. (Which boggles my mind.) Wow. I had no idea. I wasn’t required to take a CPR class for little league. I just thought it was a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllianaLancerContra Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Brings back memories of 2005 DCA. RIP Lothar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terri Schehr Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 16 minutes ago, IllianaLancerContra said: Brings back memories of 2005 DCA. RIP Lothar. I know that a nurse marched with him in the mellophone section. She was probably administering CPR but I wasn’t there so I couldn’t say for sure. I think he may have been gone before he hit the ground. It happens. My Dad died in his sleep. Oh boy, that’s a story for another day… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllianaLancerContra Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 49 minutes ago, Terri Schehr said: I know that a nurse marched with him in the mellophone section. She was probably administering CPR but I wasn’t there so I couldn’t say for sure. I think he may have been gone before he hit the ground. It happens. My Dad died in his sleep. Oh boy, that’s a story for another day… I believe there was a paramedic in the Corps, plus a cardiologist in stands who responded immediately. If it were possible for him to be saved, they would have been able to do it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsnare Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 Just want to let everyone know that an AED is for defibrillating a heart (a heart rate that is so fast, it is functionally useless). All the AED machines I have used will tell you to keep doing CPR if there is no heart rate, and will let you know when it is ok to press the button. From AED USA Can You Use an AED on Someone with a Stopped Heart? The short answer to this is no. An AED can only be used on someone with a rapid heart rate. You cannot use it on victims with an extremely slow heart rhythm or those whose heart stops beating. They are great machines and have saved many lives, but not the initial answer to everything. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keystone3ply Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 9 hours ago, oldsnare said: Just want to let everyone know that an AED is for defibrillating a heart (a heart rate that is so fast, it is functionally useless). All the AED machines I have used will tell you to keep doing CPR if there is no heart rate, and will let you know when it is ok to press the button. From AED USA Can You Use an AED on Someone with a Stopped Heart? The short answer to this is no. An AED can only be used on someone with a rapid heart rate. You cannot use it on victims with an extremely slow heart rhythm or those whose heart stops beating. They are great machines and have saved many lives, but not the initial answer to everything. Correct. After placing the monitor pads, our machines at school will give all the directions to the faculty/staff. If needed, the machine will tell us to continue CPR chest compressions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terri Schehr Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 1 hour ago, keystone3ply said: Correct. After placing the monitor pads, our machines at school will give all the directions to the faculty/staff. If needed, the machine will tell us to continue CPR chest compressions. So an AED is for AFIB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cainan Posted November 1, 2023 Author Share Posted November 1, 2023 On 10/29/2023 at 8:35 PM, fighterkit said: I do not know CPR, But when I was DM at Boston the first thing med staff did during rehearsal was pull us aside and explain how to use the AED we carried literally everywhere and made sure one of us knew CPR. Very very thankful that it never came to that, but that AED was carried with us everywhere we went and was always near a podium or on our person. That is reassuring to know... The Chritian Errikson and Damar Hamlin incidents certainly taught us that being in peak physical condition doesn't mean that crazy stuff cant happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keystone3ply Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Terri Schehr said: So an AED is for AFIB? I'm no expert, but I think it's suppose to correct any kind of irregular heartbeat back to normal and/or restart the heart. (Cardiac Arrest = heart stops) If there's no heartbeat, it tell you to start or resume CPR. Here's a link the the Red Cross info on the AED. (I just pray I never have to use one.) https://www.redcross.org/take-a-class/aed/using-an-aed/what-is-aed Edited November 1, 2023 by keystone3ply cx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cainan Posted November 1, 2023 Author Share Posted November 1, 2023 (edited) Unfortunately, I was informed by the gentlemans son that he passed peacefully yesterday with his 5 kids at his side. He thanked us for not allowing his dad to die alone on the floor of the town market, but rather with his family by his side. I had very mixed emotions when I heard the news. Naturally I thought "could we have done more?" and then I realised how daft that thought was. We kept him going enough for the paramedics to intervene. The paramedics (there were 4 of them btw) showed up with all of their training, their equipment and their meds and it took THEM a half hour to stabilise him enough just to transport him to the ambulance. Once in the ambulance, he arrested twice more. They managed to get the man to the cardiac specialist hospital in Liverpool where with a wealth of cardiac doctors and untold amounts of equipment and technology even they couldn't stave off the inevitable. I suppose when it's your time it's your time. I spoke with one of the paramedics that was on scene and he said the guy was gone before he hit the floor and that in no uncertain terms, we saved his life. His family got to say a proper goodbye because of everyones intervention and I can live at peace with that. Would I do it again if the situation presented itself? Absolutely. Would I have done anything differently? No. Edited November 1, 2023 by Cainan 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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