90'sMelloguy Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 its not like they played the same song...they performed it almost EXACTLY....im not saying anybody owns anymusic but it was clearly copied And Phantom copied it from Shostakovich.....where is the line? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdkappasig Posted July 12, 2006 Author Share Posted July 12, 2006 Why? joking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slow Adam Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 And Phantom copied it from Shostakovich.....where is the line? To me this is akin to plagiarism...Phantom credited Shostakovich for the source material in 1996. Did this band credit Lee Beddis for the percussion parts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maleko13 Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 I thought it was funny, my high school had a "marching band" we wore jeans, played our fight songs and a couple pep band tunes in parades and dicked around during halftime in the stands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBadMadMan Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 (edited) And Phantom copied it from Shostakovich.....where is the line? ok...there's a difference though between Phantom's "arrangement" of a Shostakovich piece...which was an original arrangement....and then a direct rip of the Phantom show...so that point isn't exactly valid. Edited July 12, 2006 by BigBadMadMan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom&Phitch Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 I think the band director is al ramirez, anyone heard of him? DCI marcher maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90'sMelloguy Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 (edited) ok...there's a difference though between Phantom's "arrangement" of a Shostakovich piece...which was an original arrangement....and then a direct rip of the Phantom show...so that point isn't exactly valid. Sure it's Valid. Phantom took material and arranged it for a drum corps. This high school took the same material and arranged it for an ensemble with different instrumentation. Do I agree with it? NO. But that high school does not have to ask anyones permission to do what they did. If it was original music that was written and copyrighted by someone on staff than they would. Public domain means anyone can use, play or adapt however they choose...and that was what they did. Edited July 13, 2006 by 90'sMelloguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekleve Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 To me this is akin to plagiarism...Phantom credited Shostakovich for the source material in 1996.Did this band credit Lee Beddis for the percussion parts? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the main reason plagiarism is illegal is so that people don't earn profits from somebody else's idea. I doubt that marching band got a recording contract and a million dollars off of that show. The way I see it, if a drum corps today blatantly ripped off 1996 Phantom Regiment, they would be linched. But this is a MARCHING BAND we're talking about for crying out loud!!! So many people on this forum only see the BOA competing bands that compete at the highest level, but most marching bands don't even play music that was written/arranged specifically for them. My band played music that was taken out of marching band music books! SO WHAT! It doesn't matter! It just doesn't matter. Let those kids have their rewarding experience with it and don't be threatened by it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90'sMelloguy Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Did this band credit Lee Beddis for the percussion parts? They dont have to I doubt Lee Beddis would care either way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90'sMelloguy Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Correct me if I'm wrong, but the main reason plagiarism is illegal is so that people don't earn profits from somebody else's idea. I doubt that marching band got a recording contract and a million dollars off of that show.The way I see it, if a drum corps today blatantly ripped off 1996 Phantom Regiment, they would be linched. But this is a MARCHING BAND we're talking about for crying out loud!!! So many people on this forum only see the BOA competing bands that compete at the highest level, but most marching bands don't even play music that was written/arranged specifically for them. My band played music that was taken out of marching band music books! SO WHAT! It doesn't matter! It just doesn't matter. Let those kids have their rewarding experience with it and don't be threatened by it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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