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OK. Knock me over with a feather. DCI.org Support stepped up. Kudos to them! I sent an email to DCI and got a link to a 2020 DCI Refund Form. (Ticketmaster tickets will automatically refund is about 30 days.) So for DCI.org tickets... fans can do what they want to do OR what have to do. This form covers requests for Friend of DCI Membership, Friend of DCI Additional Tickets, Super 3 Ticket Package, DCI Tour Premier Event(s) Here's the link ->https://dciticketing.formstack.com/forms/2020refundrequestform Please use it wisely. And, stay safe out there!!!

Same question... if you take like seats in 2021, OR donate to DCI... who's to say DCI will still be around to make good on either of those alternatives? The pandemic will continue until people have been inoculated against it, until then we're just playing whack-a-mole with it. Sorry to sound so cheery about it.

Is there a lawyer in the house?

Think your comments are spot on, Tim. There's a very good possibility that some of the money is already spent, maybe in advance of this season, maybe to cover losses from a previous season. Contractors do this all the time, collect money from one project to pay expenses from another. Starting to smell a lawsuit here.

Seriously? The thing to do here Jeff, is to try to force yourself to think of other, less-fortunate people.

As much as I love Drum Corps, I think it would be huge mistake to assume that ticket money paid for canceled 2020 events would be automatically donated to any organization, corps or promoter. The money should be refunded to the buyers and let them figure out what to do with it. It should be a personal decision because some people need it for family expenses, to live on while they're out of their jobs, donating to a local food bank, or donating to local humanitarian charities. Yeah, lots of us can afford to let the money go to member corps, but I think it a mistake to do that in light of the gravity of this human and economic disaster, everyone's situation is unique, and we're all at risk. There's a side effect of this that should be considered. The most-devoted drum corps fans, the ones that plan their entire summer around it, tend to buy their tickets early. Allentown offers their 2-day ticket package only in October. Done that myself, and I travel there from California. So not refunding, keeping the money as a donation, is a decision that DCI would be making for its best customers. The last-minute buyers who had not yet bought tickets would still be whole and able to spend their money on more essential things. IMHO

I am born and raised in Rome, NY. Forever, the best place for Italian in Rome is The Savoy(#3 3.5stars on Yelp!), been the best since I was a kid. Expensive by Rome standards but will not disappoint, I think it a great value. Definitely NOT a place for a quick bite before the "Drum Pageant" as we used to call it, you need more time. Very nearby is a restaurant called Teddy's(#1 4stars on Yelp!), is listed as Italian, it is THE closest restaurant to Rome Free Academy Stadium, just a level 15 minute walk up Linden Street. Yes, its an Italian place but if you're a local or live in central New York, you know what the term "Fish Fry" means. I've been there dozens of times when I visit my old home town and for my money, they make one of the best regional Haddock "Fish Frys" on the planet. Many restaurants offer it on Fridays (Catholic customers, you know) but Teddy's has it available every night of the week. I don't think I've ever gone in there for Italian food. If you're from out of the area, give a Fish Fry a try, If you do, you'll probably do it again next time.

That's two unbelievable debachles I've witnessed in Drum Corps shows, last one was the "Moonlight Classic" at Sacramento State in 2012. At intermission, there was an extended delay, the the announcer finally came on the PA and kindly asked everyone to leave the stadium, for safety reasons. They couldn't get the stadium lights turned on, the organizers didn't get the key to the room where the switches were. So each of SCVC, BDB, Phantom, BD and SVC all had to settle for a standstill in the parking lot by their respective buses. No scoring for anyone at the event. That was the last of Sac State as the venue for The Classic. All those ticketholders screwed.

Alright! SCV Best in the west. But can anyone catch Blu? posted from the DrumScorps app

Please straighten me out on something? So, there are now 35 pages of Suggestion Box items and related discussions here. Is this all just pointless venting? Or does someone official at DCI read this stuff, evaluate suggestions on their merits and maybe prioritize suggestions for future board consideration? Does anyone in an official capacity at DCI respond/react to suggestions that are made here? Does anyone at DCI have the job of listening to the fan base? ( ( ( ( I've got plenty of suggestions for the NFL and MLB, and there are plenty of places online where I can document them for discussion... but, going in, i KNOW I'm wasting my time... I KNOW that these organizations aren't looking for any input from me whatsoever. ) ) ) )

The sad thing, for those of us that weren't around, or weren't paying attention way back when is that we may never be able to go back and "look up" the '07 Colts, '72 Anaheim Kingsman or the '92 Velvet Knights in order to understand what you're talking about. If I wanted to see what was so great about any of these corps, I could not. Essentially, DCI history is gone, buried but for the memories of the diligent old-timers here. I'd love to know more about the history of DCI, but now, there's no way I could ever study it. Does anyone have any real information on... is there any real work being done on bringing back the DCI fan network video archives? Or, realistically , is this gone forever? p

My list in order... SCVanguard - Always a crowd pleaser, its a shame they don't score better. LIGHT 'em up! Bluecoats - Show designs have been brilliant, fun to watch. Bloo will be the next new champion. Cadets - Always loved them. Hated all the narration last year but "10" was great... I still call 'em Garfield. Crown - Fun show to watch Phantom - Loved the Claire De Lune Honorable mention Blue Knights Rarely making my list is Blue Devils, indisputably excellent, but not interested in seeing their shows more than once. What was "re-write of spring" all about?

Regarding my earlier suggestion to get the fans involved in the judging with text messages. Pure and simple is a popularity contest, by definition it will be biased, that's what fans do. I don't see a problem with that at all. Here in the age of fan voting on reality shows and talent shows, I think it works, people want to be involved. No, not everyone in the stands at a drum corps show is a drum corps expert, not everyone is going to vote objectively, hardly anyone in the stands is a there for their first-ever drum corps show. Whatever the case, a small bit of the score determined purely by what the fans enjoyed, might keep people from wondering if the judges really saw the same performances that they did. If you want to talk about what will make drum corps thrive and grow going forward, I'm almost certain that rewarding technical perfection is not going to do the job because most fans don't see the problems/tics that the judges do. People cough up real money to see these shows, they only get to see one DCI show a year first hand, if you entertain them, if you move them and touch their hearts, if you impress them and then engage them in the scoring, they'll be back and they'll bring their friends. My money's on "General Effect-3" that gives the fans(that paid to be there) a voice. Hmmm maybe the fans that paid to see the show on DCI Live! should be included as well, that'll cover us fanatics.

Cappybara - Thanks for using the word "incompetent". Do you know if we're talking about DCI's digital crew per se? I wonder if they simply farmed everything out... the video to NeuLion... the billing to "nmnathletics"? Did they wash their hands of it completely? Is that why things are so screwy? Sometimes I wonder if DCI's sitting back thinking all is well while the technology ship is actually sinking. I surely don't get the feeling that anyone at DCI gives a darn about the problems we're having.

Here are my ideas... 1. Fire Neulion. Evidently they haven't got a clue. Video presentation platform is trash. Doesn't work on iPod/iPhone/iPad or Android anything... and its 2015? I still can't believe that the 2015 DCI Awards Ceremony on YouTube doesn't work, sure it has 60+ thousand hits but I'd wager 90+% of them were unsuccessful. 2. Gotta get the archives back online. And must make it possible to see last night's show, not just while its going on. Maybe DCI could apply for a grant from some musical history association for the arts or even the feds to fund the corps efforts to secure extended copyrighted material usage rights. 3. Something should be done with the scoring system to get the fans that have paid to be present at a show involved. It would be great to see a corps score well because they were a huge crown pleaser even though their execution might not have been as perfect as another corp's. Maybe something could be done to allow the fans to text an address with the corps number of their choice as the corps they most enjoyed... only announce the address in the stadium and only allow texts to be counted if they come in within a 5 minute period. The technology exists, its 2015 and lots of fans have texting capability. Do a field test making it a component of the score, maybe call it "General Effect-Human". Thanks for listening.

Been a DCI Live! subscriber all season. And this is my third season on it. I am totally Apple products here. I use MacBookAir to mirror onto my AppleTV box onto the big screen. Last year and the year before I was able to get it to work on the meager 1.5mbps internet service I had. I was able to do this because I could go back and watch a show in the middle of the night (west coast time) or during the next day when I was likely to get the best speed I could. THIS year I got crap... less than 360P resolution. I #####ed to my internet provider and they came up with 4.5 mbps speed for me on a trial... I was able to go as far as 540P resolution. The old DCI FanNetwork is gone, you can no longer see shows from previous years OR the shows from earlier this year OR even the show from last night. You're watching the show live on 5-10mbps minimum and ONLY while the show is actually going on. There's the reality. OH, and guess what its exactly the same price as it was in previous years, for a lot less real value. Maybe once DCI figures out how to play nice with the copyright laws we'll get this important piece of history back. For now, its our tough luck. I can watch videos from YouTube at much better quality than I can EVER get from DCI Live! I've badgered the poor folks on the front lines about their new and improved streaming technology that has a total buffering capability of about 43 bytes. but they are telling me that basically if I don't have (and can't get) 5-10mbps service I'm flat out of luck. Also IMHO: I bought the Stanford-Allentown package. And I believe DCI Live should allow you to decide later in the season, for an up-charge, as to whether you want to add on the Indy shows. I checked the other day and the price for seeing the Indy shows was 70-some-odd bucks. Especially since we're gyped out of seeing shows after their live. To answer the questions above, 1. YES you can watch on different devices as long as they are both computers and YES they no require you to log off one and on to the next. NO you cannot access the service from your iPhone or iPad (which I find incredible on a "newly designed streaming service" in 2015). APPLE users (and maybe windows users too) MUST use the FIREFOX browser... again shaking my head as to what WERE they thinking). At first the support people were adamant about wanting me on Google Chrome but then changed their recommendation to Firefox. 2. YES Apple is no problem as long as you play the Firefox game. They didn't want to talk about Safari, I guess because they didn't test it, just guessing. The thing to watch about mirroring to AppleTV box is that not only do you have to account for the internet throughput you're requesting through your wireless router but you then also have to have capacity left in the router to mirror the presentation from your computer in house to your AppleTV box. So in rough terms you're moving twice the data through your router. You may want to upgrade to an AirPort or AirPortExtreme router... I haven't dug into this in much detail yet. 3. NO once you buy a bundle, you can switch freely between the HiCam and Multicam streams. But be advised that many of the smaller shows that have a multi-cam optional stream don't really have multiple cameras or the people to operate them. And early in the season, before all the features of a corp's show are in, the directors( that switch from cam to cam )don't know where or when to switch. Usually about DCI Atlanta they have that figured out. Also on the quality of a presentation, some shows have MUCH better sound than others, don't expect any sort of consistency between shows OR even within a show. Sometime the volume of the announcer is way off from the field volume level. Hope this helps. I love this stuff and I sure do hope DCI is able to make the archives available sometime soon.

1. Santa Clara - The heck with the scores, Light em up! 2. Crown - Clever and powerful 3. Bluecoats - Always inventive 4. Cadets - I still call 'em Garfield 5. Phantom - Loved the Claire De Lune

I was fortunate enough to be able to help SCV get the Tesla Coils going prior to the Fresno show. I saw this effect the Wednesday(22nd) night at the Little Rock DCI Arkansas show. I was watching on DCI Live! Since I don't have 10mbps internet service, the resolution I get out of it at 4.5 mbps is crap(360P). That said... we did notice the effect when the corps is aligned in a set of "rays " going from a single point out to the rightmost tesla coils. The member's backs are turned to us they light their white sashes up then they all turn toward the crowd. The horn line are quiet because they're gesturing/dancing with their arms outstretched. The top silver donut feature of the Tesla coils also get lit up but I don't recall when that happens exactly. I think this is a perfect spot for the "Vanguard" yell... while their backs are turned to us... they turn and then BANG! The crowd goes crazy! BUT I think the moment just before the first hit is already taken. Relatively small crowd in Arkansas, it'll be interesting to see how the fans react in Atlanta. Regarding lighting on the uniforms, can anyone confirm if this is a DCI first? I know Blue Devils had lit up props last year for Felliniesque, but uniforms?

Long time drum corps fan here… back as far as Magnificent Yankees of 1963. I attended DCI West and 2 days of DCI Allentown this year and noticed that a couple of corps have an open MacBook in the pit… presumably active, alive and doing something. No pit member was stationed in front of it. Although there are tons of things computers can be used for in the design and production of a drum corps show its not obvious as to what Mac software would be of use to a drum corps when the show is actually being performed. Sound effects is all I could come up with but I'm thinking there might be much more to it than that. Thanks p

Has anyone mentioned taking care of the fans in this whole deal? Dropping $20 and not seeing the top corps is pretty lame.

Sac State facility is really an abomination. The whole business BOTH grandstands are made of scaffolding, not concrete and steel as one might expect. Restroom facilities are small trailers, not permanent facilities. I'm sure many of you have seem high school facilities better than Sac State's. I still can't believe they held Olympic track and field trials there in recent past. Anyways, here's a suggestion, the next time these guys schedule a "Moonlight Classic" in Sacramento it had better coincide with the FULL moon (we're only about "first quarter" right now).