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I get all of the "love" second chances, with the guard guys and the guys in "Danzon", but I do not understand how Peter Pan fits into this. It's like this whole show is in a fantasy world too, but you don't know that until the final 20 seconds. I'm not sure how much this was thought out, but what do I know... Seems like a lame attempt at grabbing last year's magic, as others have said.

She messes around with 5 different guys, then ends up with Peter Pan. I really don't understand the concept of this...

That would be BEAT-IFIC!

Someone already mentioned this, but: 1996: Quarters 98.3 Blue Devils 97.2 Cadets 95.5 Cavaliers 94.6 Phantom Regiment Semis 96.9 Blue Devils 96.6 Cadets 95.5 Phantom Regiment 95.0 Cavaliers Finals 97.4 Blue Devils & Phantom Regiment 96.9 Cadets 93.8 Cavaliers I think BD was on top for much of the season, anyone know if they were undefeated til the tie? Yes, it was 13 years ago, but it could happen. What is BD dropped a point or more tonight? Anyway, great season and best top 5 of any season, IMO.

So does Phantom really have a good chance at gold? I thought they owned tonight...I easily had them first. That program is absolutely phenominal. I can't say I'm surprised with the results, but really, if Phantom does not win finals the way things are going, it will be the biggest screw up in DCI, IMO...and yes, I mean bigger than passing narration into the rules. The problem is that we see the whole show, whereas there are 9 judges each (supposedly) looking at a different aspect. That being said, and to reiterate, the visual scores are ridiculous! They should not be a point back... Pulling for Phantom!!!! 0.8 is small, but could still be hard to overcome the way slotting is.

Updated from the last 2 posts (I'm not double voting...) 5 - Blue Stars 17 - Carolina Crown 17 - Madison Scouts 23 - Phantom Regiment 16 - Santa Clara Vanguard 17 - Troopers

6 - Blue Stars - 17 - Carolina Crown 17 - Madison Scouts - 23 - Phantom Regiment + 17 - Santa Clara Vanguard 18 - Troopers

15 - Bluecoats 21 - Blue Stars - 23 - Carolina Crown 10 - Crossmen 29 - Madison Scouts 31 - Phantom Regiment + 28 - Santa Clara Vanguard 28 - Troopers -

10 - Blue Devils - 23 - Blue Stars 22 - Bluecoats 31 - Carolina Crown 26 - Crossmen 31 - Madison Scouts 33- Phantom Regiment + 30 - Santa Clara Vanguard 29 - Troopers

I saw the Allentown video on FN and the pic on DCI. So these are used at the beginning of the show? When do they switch to their regular instruments? (Since they march right into the form). ???

From DCI Official: World Class World Championship Quarterfinals Thursday, Aug. 7 – Stepping off at 4:15 p.m. ET 1. Pioneer – 4:15 p.m. 2. Mandarins – 4:32 p.m. 3. The Academy – 4:49 p.m. 4. Pacific Crest – 5:06 p.m. 5. Troopers – 5:23 p.m. Intermission (34 min) 6. Spirit – 6:14 p.m. 7. Colts – 6:31 p.m. 8. Madison Scouts – 6:48 p.m. 9. Crossmen – 7:05 p.m. 10. Glassmen – 7:22 p.m. 11. Blue Stars – 7:39 p.m. 12. Boston Crusaders – 7:56 p.m. Intermission (17 min) 13. Blue Knights – 8:30 p.m. 14. Bluecoats – 8:47 p.m. 15. Santa Clara Vanguard – 9:04 p.m. 16. The Cadets – 9:21 p.m. 17. Phantom Regiment – 9:38 p.m. 18. Carolina Crown – 9:55 p.m. 19. The Cavaliers – 10:12 p.m. 20. Blue Devils – 10:29 p.m.

18 - Blue Devils 24 - Blue Stars 21 - Bluecoats 04 - Boston Crusaders 26 - Carolina Crown 23 - Crossmen 30 - Madison Scouts 02 - Mandarins 34 - Phantom Regiment 28 - Santa Clara Vanguard 25 - Troopers Tic Mandarins, Credit PR

16 - Blue Devils 23 - Blue Stars 23 - Bluecoats 11 - Boston Crusaders 25 - Carolina Crown 18 - Crossmen 33 - Madison Scouts - 07 - Mandarins 27 - Phantom Regiment + 04 - Pioneer 25 - Santa Clara Vanguard 24 - Troopers

12 - Blue Devils 22 - Blue Stars 23 - Bluecoats 11 - Boston Crusaders 24 - Carolina Crown 04 - Colts 20 - Crossmen 30 - Madison Scouts- 07 - Mandarins 28 - Phantom Regiment+ 07 - Pioneer 26 - Santa Clara Vanguard 22 - Troopers

14 - Blue Devils 21 - Blue Stars 20 - Bluecoats 11 - Boston Crusaders 22 - Carolina Crown 10 - The Cavaliers 09 - Colts 20 - Crossmen 28 - Madison Scouts 07 - Mandarins - 27 - Phantom Regiment + 08 - Pioneer 20 - Santa Clara Vanguard 20 - Troopers

16 - Blue Devils 22 - Blue Stars 18 - Bluecoats 10 - Boston Crusaders 21 - Carolina Crown 10 - The Cavaliers 09 - Colts 19 - Crossmen 05 - Glassmen - 24 - Madison Scouts 08 - Mandarins 06 - Pacific Crest 24 - Phantom Regiment + 08 - Pioneer 19 - Santa Clara Vanguard 18 - Troopers

Here is Crown's ending...they're saving it for Finals, though.

I think the Cavies new ending is awesome, which is why I give the edge to them. Is Phantom getting a new ending? The one they have just doesn't seem exciting enough...I mean they jazz run the whole show and end with expanding 2 blocks using 16-5s.???(Is that accurate?) Also, I love Blue Devils until they decide to stop what they're doing and play "Dance Movements", then it seems like they take 2 minutes to do what should be a 30-second ending.

(I think there was already a post on new endings, so feel free to merge or whatever) Ok, I probably missed discussion on this by not going through the 130+ pages of Atlanta or Murfreesboro. There had been talk of the Cavaliers new ending and I heard once that Crown had a new ending. I saw both of these on the Atlanta webcast (afterwards)and thought they were great. How did everyone else feel they stacked up? In addition to these, I had been reading about Phantom having a new ending. Is this not true? I was disappointed that it was the same from last weekend. I love Phantom and really want them to take the gold, but I truly don't think they can do it with their current ending. It just is not as good as the other 3 corps around/ahead of them. Maybe it's because I'm so used to it now that I want something fresh, but I just think that with such an amazing production they need an amazing ending. This is one reason I could see Cavaliers catching Blue Devils over Phantom catching them. And with the Cavaliers, just an observation and question from reading on here. I have read several times that some think they are boring and the show just is not exciting and is going nowhere. I agree it is not as loud as most (if not all) other corps. However, I cannot help but be reminded of Frameworks. Why is this show getting so much criticism for being "boring" and Frameworks is seen as almost "Godly"? This is not to criticize either show or to say that Samuri is as good as Frameworks, but 2002 is not exactly an in-your-face, extremely exciting show (as far as everything, loud music, etc.) So why is this? They do what they do, amazing drill and visual production, great tone and playing.

Nice how there are all these other hypotheticals that people harp on day in and out, and I wrote something I read and was thinking about, and you all are d!cks about it. Every post on here is irrelevant, if you want to look at it that way. This was not a narration/amplification bashing post, just something I saw as interesting.

I went back and read the Star of Indiana recollections today from their website (I have read them before, but it has been a while). If you have not read these, please do...some cool stuff from Bill Cook about the history of Star and Blast!. Anyway, it got me thinking, and excuse me if this has been discussed, but were Jim Mason in DCI today, and more importantly head of a corps, what would it be like? He was innovative during Star's run...of course 1993 Medea. Then, he left DCI to begin Brass Theater, according to the recollections: "electronic amplification and synthesis are used as well as thetrical lighting, back screen projections, and other props to enhance the performance." Would amplification have come sooner with him? And would Star be what many view the Cadets as today? Kinda seems like Mason and Hop could have been long-lost brothers. Thoughts?

On this topic, did DCI never release a 2004 CD? I know this was the first year for APDs, but every other year they also had CDs. ???

Some shows that I never tire of listening to: Madison Scouts 2000 Boston Crusaders 2001 Glassmen 2002 Bluecoats 2003 These were all 7-10 place and very underated, IMO.

"Well, I like the script, but I think we need someone with a different voice." "Who do you have in mind" "What about that kid that sounds like Napoleon Dynamite?" "Brilliant!!!"

SCV 89. Come on, how is it this close???