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Lulz. 10 to 1 some red and green alum downvoted. Don't fret, you'll win drums... Until st Antonio. ;-)

Alert! The following is a troll attack. Respond at your own peril. Are you new? Um, let me guess what they'll do... the brass will stand in an arc with horns held in front of their crotches. They'll ripple up for every entrance. They'll play some tuning sequence really loud. They'll play procession really loud. Some nozzle on a mic will say this is what we do, this is how we do it. They'll demo ensemble rehearsal. They'll let some band kids wearing their camp shirts get up close to smell the suta. Then they'll hit the showers and beat vanguard later that night. They'll use the ~$1500 bucks they raise to put gas in the truck. Questions?

lol. domo arigato, domo san.

Here's the truth... I'm uniform agnostic. It's kids working their tails off rain, sleet, or shine to achieve a common goal. That's drum corps, at any level. I hope Oregon continues to have success. And it would be an awesome sight to see the old guard shaking in their boots at a powerful newcomer. My issue lies with how this whole thing goes down at the last minute. I vote for putting everyone on the same sheet from the very beginning. And if OC is over Cascades or Spirit, so be it. My point is that it feels great to achieve high box scores and comparative competitive success, and all 4 of the open class corps that wrecked house this week in worlds had a real sense of success in open class competition before they arrived at Indy. You can't discount the power that wins and an increasing score (into the rarified 90s) has on the mental state of the average corps member. Now turn that around and think of the mental state of the average bottom tier world class member, barely getting out of the 60s because world is hard and that's the way the sheet goes, then finally getting to low box 4 (70s) and then staying there for a few weeks. All the while, being near the bottom of the list at shows. Now imagine that at the last minute corps that you really haven't seen at shows comes in from left field, disrupting your world view. Imagine the mindset of the member of Surf, Cascades, heck, BDB beat Crossmen in drums. So the amount that you've raised the happiness of the few open class members experiencing some world class success, you've lowered (at the last minute)the mindset of those world corps members. If everyone had been on the same sheets from the get go, none of my issues would be issues.

No dad. Not bitter. Probably more experienced. And granted, a bigger @55****. And, by the way, unaffiliated with any of the corps in question. What I do know is that OC came out July 1st, did 3 small shows, hung out in the beautiful northwest until almost August, did a handful of shows in the middle, during which they must have been happy besting big bad Bdb. Just pointing out that'these corps benefited from the sunshine blowing from the open class sheets inasmuch as accolade improves morale just as slogging through the bottom degrades it. And my response was to the classy first post in topic. Long story short, walk a mile or two in shoes before you puff yourself up to tower status.

Lol. I've never heard less than 3 pts separation called a TOWER. Here's the thing. Now that these happy open corps have tasted world class blood, I invite them to move in in may and tour all summer, non stop, coast to coast. On world sheets by the way... Hang out in the 60s for much of the summer until near the end you break into the lower 70s, and then be happy to stay there for the rest of the season. Forget about the 80s or the 90s lol. Forget about that rush you get when you win a show, won't happen. Forget about the winners vibe you carry with you from the show to rehearsal to the bus. Nobody will care to see you roll in. Spirit or Madison or Academy won't shake with fear when they see you in the lot. It will be a slog through the hottest parts of your mind until finals when a few open corps who have spent much of the season in their own beds, travelled fewer miles, had fewer breakdowns, are at the happy top of their class, show up and beat you. Do that and we'll talk about towers.

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Pioneer is a very good corps. They weren't bettered by lightweights. Drum corps is drum corps, regardless of division. However, it takes a different metal -- mental, fiscal, and physical -- to shoulder the demands of a full tour. Ten days kicking around in two or three mid-western states isn't the grueling coast to coast, weeks on end, trek that a world corps must endure. On the other hand, the show is the show.

good luck MC! close and clean, and clean and clean.

True with a flute, perhaps, but not with a saxophone.

So, you're not only a dinosaur, but an orthodox one. Withholding your support from a positive youth enrichment activity exactly like the one that filled your life with joy because they're using new instrumentation is perfectly sane... You shouldn't rethink this position at all. I've heard that there are actually dino drum corps agnostics out there that support these kids despite unholy electronics! We should do the Westboro thing and picket Indy with signs like "Dog hates amps!". That'd be rad.

Discussion isn't about money, it's about letting the work speak for itself before the hype. It's backwards in this case. Gold, for example hasn't posted squat, nor Impulse, nor BDB, and certainly not SCVC. And they're all having stellar seasons and are at the top of the open class. And by the way. Star again for the best example of how to fold a corps. They were like, "bounce! And we out!" .

http://replay.waybackmachine.org/200906230....org/staff.html http://www.fortecorps.org/staff.htm Different corps... Lol. It's probably even the same web host. And now for the important point that shouldn't be missed... Nobody's talking about the show. We're talking about paperwork. Just do your thing, put it on the field, and keep it there. We will all love you for that. Promise.

Yeah? That's cool. So there aren't any MS people running this corps? Nothing against these guys... The open class hype thing has become so over done and old. It has become all about "hey, look how earnest and try-hard we are! Yay for us! Watch out cuz here we come!" followed by a fold and a reformation, followed by the stale hype machine, rinse and repeat. It would be refreshing for a corps to come out and just do the job on the field without spin and have everyone buzzing about how awesome they are... Star '85 for instance.

You're offended by smartass remarks? Lol. Did you march corps? Rub some dirt on it and get back out there, this isn't the AYSO. The problem isn't with the kids or their performance. It's simply goofy and bando to post and brag about scores. That started the flame.

Exactly. And wait to congrat yourself when you come out in the middle of box 4. That said. Go forte.

get those kids in step and you have a shot.

Actually, whoever this 3rd and 10 dude is, and regardless of any of his/her prior posts (which I haven't read), it seems that it's a reasonable question, and one that's asked about World Class corps who have shown promise and then fallen. CT. It's unnecessary to defend VK. It is perfectly legit to wonder what has happened. It's a corps' job to provide kids with a positive/successful(and I don't mean just competitive) summer activity. If from the outside it looks like things are going sour, it's reasonable to ask the question, "what's going on?" I'm sure potential members to that organization would like to know - before they drop $2000 or so on their summer. And 3rd&10... Be cool. Competition drives rivalry, but apparent glee at a corps' hard times isn't drum corps. It's not welcome in this thing we do.

wow. talk about a "finalist" badge gimme. "hey look, we're a Open Class Finalist." "hey look, everyone is."

There is no also. That's a right foot step off this season. Turn it up to 480p and look close. And then note that they're in 3, so some of those downbeats will be on the left. fHNsab

They see me rollin', they hatin' And more over, it appears that this is NOT the official Impulse page. See Me, why you trying to dig dirt? Go support your corps, *cough* vk *cough*, and refrain from all the neg.

my response wasn't to the OP, but to the genius who thinks pimpin' is easy. it ain't. let the OP go off and start a corps - win or fail... meh. i'm over admin glorifying their hard work. bills, calls, volunteers, sick penguins, pshh! i don't care.

Dude. It's not educational/creative staff's job to do any of this. As an admin, it's not your privilege to complain about these aspects of corps if you choose to be the one to deal with them. "It is very easy to come in, teach a show, clean a show, and then go home." Really? HA! With success? You're clueless. (pics of your rings and gold medals will change my mind).

It's not a database error or simple classification nomenclature. It's someone being a jerk - either at the DCI website level or a hack (which I doubt). I was at one of the shows this past weekend as well, and Impulse is far from extinct. Positive direction, excellent training going on. They're marching well and the battery is often spectacular. They'll be back in the top 6 soon.