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Saw a post today on Pat Sheridan's facebook page about a meeting with some medical people regarding breathing gym stuff for COPD (chronic obstructive pulmonary disease) rehabilitation

I am not picking sides of either corps cuz I like both this year, I have former students in SCV and friends on BD's staff.... but I have seen several lot clips of both BD and SCV on that site "that shall not be mentioned". And in my opinion, from what I have seen BD has a much more complex battery book....so as they get cleaner much of that complexity will shine through and will then be able to get credit reflecting in their scores. This is taking nothing away from Rennick or SCV....no matter how the season ends, SCV should feel proud because their improvement from last season has not gone unnoticed by the judges or the fans

Even when I marched in 1989 there were talks of adding electronics......hard to say it is frivolous decision. Drum Corps have been (and still are) the bench mark of the marching activity in the lines of performance quality. But up until the recent rule changes many have believed that high school groups/independent wgi drumlines had passed what drum corps where doing from a design stand point musically. I guess the best way to explain it from a kids stand point would be like marching really complex difficult drill at high school, and then going to drum corps and marching symmetrical drill that never broke 136 bpm and had the drumline drill move up down the 50 yard line.......just an analogy. As far as less corps nowadays......well how many of those corps don't exist anymore because they were run improperly......We can't forget that it is a youth activity and these corps need to be financially stable, have insurance etc.... I find it very hard to believe that every corps from the 70's had all their "business" taken care of for running a youth activity in order........it is in DCI's best interest, and the best interest of the kids, to make sure these corps are being run properly and legally......I really can't see how people could have a problem with that. As far as prices getting higher for tickets and members fees......it is the reality of inflation.......everything has higher cost nowadays. Just look at the price of gas. Disneyland, NBA, and MBL all have higher ticket prices too from what they did 10, 20, 30 years ago....and their true fans can step back and look at reality. Does drum corps have some special magic around it that protects it from the reality of inflation?

have you not been on these forum pages before complaints of "thunderous goo" are like the flavor of the month....but only its the season

Maybe some corps should do more to encourage the members to do it

I do and I don't understand why certain corps don't have their members participate......I known some say that it might take away from what the corps as a whole is trying to accomplish.....but in BD's case, they won percussion the night before the I&E event....so it doesn't seem that allowing members to participate in I&E hurt the percussion section......just an observation

So Spirit won the "Thunderous Goo" awards last night.....hhmm.....Spirt was also 14th in Music Ensemble.....go figure....maybe judges do take into consideration an over balance from the electronics

guess hey were scared.....just joking I was merely posting results.....the West Coast thing was also meant as a joke to all those who believe in "West Coast Inflation" But here's to BD and SCV

Congrats to members of BD and SCV for winning 7 of the 8 divisions for percussion: Snare: Keelan Tobia BD 97.0 Keyboard: Stephen Hall SCV 95.5 Multi-Perc: Amir Oosman BD 97.5 Timpani: Aaron Spevak BD 98.5 Multi Tenor: Matt Penland SCV 95 Cymbal Ensemble: SCV 95.5 Percussion Ensemble: BD 93 Also Congrats to the Colts for winning the Bass Drum Ensemble 95.5 Sorry to some of you readers.....as a former drumline member.. I didn't really look at the other divisions

The Viper is back?......... Great, now we will see even more high school cymbal lines do this next year...... It's a shame to see so many high school cymbal lines copy the "viper" but neglect copying what the SCV cymbal line does best....play with good technique.

IMO, things like this make people a little more comfortable with not attending. (the dome truely has nothing to do with it) I think through new forms of media and internet...like the "site we don't speak of".....have changed (or created) more opportunities that fans have. I have seen most of the corps shows already just while sitting at home, and I learned a lot about these corps shows even before the season began. When I marched it was possilbe not to know anything about what a corps was doing until we got to see them live.....so a drum corps fans "back in the day" would more than likely have to go to a show to see it. Now I am not saying I don't like the internet and fan network or the theater show.....I just think it has made things different......but I still believe watching a group live is still and always will be the best way

I agree with you......this was kind of what I was trying to say with my second post in this thread

Well the use of low frequencies through a sub woofer is just a new tool that groups have the ability to use. some use it well and some don't......some corps have a good snare line and some don't.......some guards catch their equipment and some don't.......I have had experience being judged by several dci music/percussion judges that judge my high school groups and I can say from experience that they WILL call out a group if the sub woofer is too strong, and I would be willing to bet that the corps get called out too.......unless we have heard their judges tapes we can't say that they don't......as far thinking it isn't reflected in the scores.....I think the judges are educated enough to look past a problem and still give credit for what the corps are doing well.

I heard from a former student who is marching Pacific Crest via Facebook post that they rewrote and learned around 30 pages of new drill last week....that could also explain something possibly

Open Class corps are allowed to compete in Quarter finals....so I think it might be a safe bet to say that not every World Class corps has a free ride into semi's....depending on how many Open Class groups make the push

can threads and topics like this be considered "thunderous goo" I'm actually getting mad at myself for waisting my time reading the same old stuff

I think people only make such a big deal about it in drum corps because it isn't as common as it is in say High School or WGI marching percussion

yes that is true.....she also did a season with Pulse Percussion on drumset. In addition to Stephanie, Bluecoats have a girl in their snareline, and Phantom has two girls in their snare line....oh and Mandarins also has a girl in their snare line.......not sure about any other corps

So is Wopner tabulating?

Don't forget Wopner

I think you are correct, BD did have a female snare drummer in the early 80's The girl marching in BD's snare line this season, was in Bluecoats snare line last season.

though you can't forget to factor in the use of percussion both performance quality and writing into the music ensemble caption. Not that you didn't.....but I have seen many people in here that think music ensemble only focuses on brass.

I would have to go with Cadets 05. When trying to determine the "best" overall taking every caption can't be overlooked. I'm sorry but I can't give a vote for a best overall to a group that had a 4th or 5th place percussion section. It's as simple as this.....would you rather eat a piece of chicken that is cooked properly (Cadets 05) or a piece of chicken that is cooked unproperly and raw in the middle (Cavies 02) ..... sorry Cavies your 02 percussion is a piece of raw chicken in this debate. But I am also slightly biased because I had a former student in Cadets tenor line in 05

I got confused.....when I saw this topic and started to read about it, I thought I was going to be reading about brass sections from the 60's and 70's

I know, strange isn't it