JayM Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 Yeah..and that brass staff all teaches CC now, and THEY call them tubas. So there. Ok? It's definitely difficult to find a good number of tubists who can play well AND handle the horn. I doubt we'll be seeing too many corps marching 16 tubas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tubadon Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 Actually, I believe in 92 they marched 3 valved horns, which would make them tubas, correct?Or is it G dependent? The key is what makes it a contrabass bugle regardless of the number of valves. I know Phantom had 14 in '96 and '03. MORE CONTRA!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euponitone Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 Nope I believe Star marched the same 2 valved horns from 1985-1993. Someone correct me if I am wrong. err...i somehow doubt that star marched on 2 valve bugles in the 90's. Im not positive, but im pretty sure that those last 3-4 years were on the same 3 valve bugles that corps like the cadets and bd were using. Maybe ill watch the video on the 12 hour bus ride home from florida... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin80 Posted January 2, 2008 Author Share Posted January 2, 2008 I talked to a couple of staff members to get my information in and see what I could do to get ready, (BTW / they seem like a great bunch of people) and I asked them if anyone had marched 16 before. They said they knew 92 Star had marched 16 and didn't really know about anyone else. I then asked them about the horns, and they said they were 2 valve contras, in G. I also think they said they were King's or at least they were related to king horns. And for the kicker, they didn't get any new horns. They marched on the same horns since the beginning. Just thought you should know - I can't wait to get over there. err...i somehow doubt that star marched on 2 valve bugles in the 90's. Im not positive, but im pretty sure that those last 3-4 years were on the same 3 valve bugles that corps like the cadets and bd were using. Maybe ill watch the video on the 12 hour bus ride home from florida... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntington Mallets Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 Here's a pic of a Star 92 member from flickr....pretty clear its 2 valve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doogiempt Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 The term "contra" and "soprano" (and even "alto", if we REALLY want to get technical) refer to voicings NOT instruments. The only families of instruments in which the terms contra, soprano, and alto are used is the saxophone and clarinet family. So, in the brass family of instruments, "contra" refers to the lowest voice of the choir, and can therefor mean a tuba in the key of G with a valve and a rotor, a tuba in the key of BBb with 3 valves, or even a tuba in the key of CC with 4 valves and a rotor. There are NO instruments in the brass family that are technically called a "contra" or a "soprano" or an "alto". The good fight continues... Michael Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh161 Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 that is true doogie. from my experience the difference between a true bugle and its counterparts would be conical vs. cylindrical bore. a true contrabass bugle has a true conical bore as opposed to a tuba with a most cylindrical bore up to the bell flare. true bugles (conical) are typically refered to as contra soprano etc. whereas the cylindrical models are trumpet tuba etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hrothgar15 Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 The term "contra" and "soprano" (and even "alto", if we REALLY want to get technical) refer to voicings NOT instruments. The only families of instruments in which the terms contra, soprano, and alto are used is the saxophone and clarinet family. So, in the brass family of instruments, "contra" refers to the lowest voice of the choir, and can therefor mean a tuba in the key of G with a valve and a rotor, a tuba in the key of BBb with 3 valves, or even a tuba in the key of CC with 4 valves and a rotor. There are NO instruments in the brass family that are technically called a "contra" or a "soprano" or an "alto".The good fight continues... Michael Terry Except for, you know, the soprano bugles, alto bugles, baritone bugles and contrabass bugles corps used to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liebot Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 Except for, you know, the soprano bugles, alto bugles, baritone bugles and contrabass bugles corps used to use. Which you could legitimately refer to as trumpet, mellophone, baritone, and tuba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouooga Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 Didn't Phantom march 16 in either 05 or 06? I don't have my DVDs handy, but I remember them advertising to euphonium players that there were tuba spots still open in January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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