ouooga

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About ouooga

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  • Birthday 02/15/1985

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    Pacific Crest, Blue Knights
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    lots
  • Your Favorite All Time Corps Performance (Any)
    Cavaliers 2000
  • Your Favorite Drum Corps Season
    2000
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  1. ouooga

    Countdown 2008 dvd (Series?)

    I was just thinking about that this morning, the first Classic Countdown. It was 3 from the 70s, 80s, 90s, and 00s, so a full finals lineup of 12 shows. Each corps only got one show in the mix. I'm pretty sure Kingsmen were 73 or 74, BD was 76, SCV was 89, Phantom was 96 and Cavaliers were 02. Can't remember the rest.
  2. I feel like there's some hostility in your response. I was answering your question about what ponying up means. Also I live in a west coast city, and would love to see more shows over here. Sorry if you were offended. As for the "if a west coast city is offered to host" first part, that's just not how it's done. Cities and venues solicit business, especially when the prospective business already has a relationship with a competing city/venue.
  3. What’s the criteria for that? Needs would be number of schools/rehearsal sites, adequate performing venue and number of hotel rooms, right? Additional would be number of origin cities with direct flights, average daily room rate in August, hotel occupancy in August, number of rooms within reasonable distance to the stadium, and average weather. Anyone disagree or have something I’m missing. I have access to a lot of this info and am happy to compile.
  4. So it was a traditional bidding process? And the main crux was the benefits for DCI to move business operations there v. the benefit of hosting the Finals week there? Edit: I'm asking if Indy won some sort of bid as a permanent Finals week host, not about business HQ relocation incentives. If the entire reason DCI Finals are permanently in Indy is because DCI HQ is in Indy, I can understand that (though I don't agree with it, at least I can understand it).
  5. He's saying that if a West Coast city wants DCI to come there, especially for Finals, then that city needs to provide a financial incentive for DCI to do so.
  6. Does anyone know if DCI solicited for a permanent location through a traditional means (ie. RFP)? I agree, the financial incentive would need to be there for DCI to move anywhere ever, but I can't imagine Indy somehow 'won' in a bidding contest. From Indy's higher-than-average August hotel rates, low total hotel room inventory, and low volume of direct flights from major airports, I just can't imagine other destinations ever got a chance to even make a case for why DCI should come to X City instead.
  7. Obviously I'm biased on this, but man oh man do I wish we could have a reasonable discussion of this. Reasonable as in we give due credit to all the pros, and acknowledge that many of the cons must be applied to other locations already on the drum corps tour. That said, the bigger question I'd like to ask: is drum corps something that travels to audiences, or something that audiences travel to? Answering this might solve more of the tour logistics issues, regardless of region.
  8. I'm just catching up with the discussion on this. Is it confirmed that DCI is not working with a crisis communications firm on this? I thought DCI had been working for several years with a small PR firm somewhere in the Midwest, but I can't seem to find the name of that on Google now.
  9. ouooga

    DCI By the Decade - The 2000s

    Wow, even with the year out of finals, I'm surprised Coats had the higher average finish than Crown. This is cool stuff.
  10. ouooga

    Best Reprise Closer?

    Blue Devils 2003 takes the cake for me.
  11. First off, I wholeheartedly agree with everyone above that says drum corps will never go mainstream. It won't, it's niche and that's its nature. If/when a marching arts program ever did become mainstream, it won't look like anything that is drum corps, or anything we've seen in general. That said... Consider Marvel Comics' evolution. Comic books are extremely niche, and looking just at the 80s and 90s, the audience that read them/had the knowledge about the characters/stories/etc. were considered extremely deep in the niche as well. Sound familiar to anyone? Late 90s, early 00s, and basically 08 to present, Marvel has completely reinvented/refined how they deliver their stories (this is broad, I realize I'm ignoring a lot of other things that happened with the niche in the same time period). For the first time ever, Iron Man, Captain America, the X-Men, etc. are mainstream. More than mainstream, they're pop culture. Everyone across the board is free to wear a Wolverine shirt walking down the street and not be considered niche - that would have been unheard of in the 90s, when a person wearing a Wolverine shirt would be given a stereotype automatically. But the die-hard niche fans aren't as on board with the current Marvel. The original fans, the ones who consider themselves 'in the know' on the real Marvel Comics, complain across the board about how they changed the stories, or the costumes (again, sound familiar?), or character backstories, etc. I'm going somewhere with this, I swear. The thing the die-hard's ignore with their argument is that the changes to story/costume/character/etc. are to make the product more accessible. The original Infinity Gauntlet story, told 1:1 on the big screen, would never ever translate. Thanos drives a friggin' helicopter that says Thanos on the side of it (dubbed Thanoscopter in some circles. No, I'm not joking.) and does everything he does to make Death (like the actual hood and cloak Death) more attracted to him. So instead, the elements are there, but the presentation is done in a way that more people will enjoy. And now...drum roll...my point! That strategy has kept them profitable! Marvel Comics was at or near bankruptcy (I think, can someone fact check that?) at one point, and has since become one of the most profitable companies on the globe. For niche, if you change the medium, tweak the model, keep the important elements and put it all in a box that everyone can get behind, there's a good chance you'll get a few more people to spend money on your entertainment genre.
  12. ouooga

    Pioneer Suspended by DCI

    If any corps read this, to any corps that is planning to put out any kind of public statement, crisis communication especially, I'd like to formally offer my writing and editing services at no charge. I'm completely serious about this, and am happy to provide credentials.
  13. ouooga

    Pioneer Suspended by DCI

    Does anyone think Roman would sell the name/assets/etc? Does anyone want to go halves on a slightly-used but nearly-good-as-new drum corps from Milwaukee?
  14. ouooga

    Pioneer Suspended by DCI

    I still can't get over that statement. The whole thing is bad, but that entire 3rd graph especially ruins it. I'm convinced no one who has ever done PR for a living - nay, even PR as a hobby - ever set eyes on these words before they were sent out. It's not a Rah Rah Cheer, it's an Apology Statement to the media/interested parties.