BRASSO Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 (edited) Corps " Tiers" are a difficult thing to define and even more difficult to designate here in July. Corps have not all been subjected to full panels. Corps have not gone head to head in competition. Some Corps started their season early, some later. Corps tend to make the most changes earlier in the competitive season rather than later. Thus, setting " tiers " right now is a futile exercise fraught with peril and definately subject to change as the season unfolds in the coming weeks. That said, as I see it, here are the " Tiers " here on July 1st. My methodology is based upon latest score here on July 1st and the grouping is based upon Corps that tend to be within 2 points of one another in these " tiers ": Ist tier................................................................ Carolina Crown 2nd ( and lower tier) : ...................Holy Name Cadets, Blue Devils 3rd tier : .................................SCV / Cavs/ Phantom/ Bluecoats 4th tier:.......................................Boston Crusaders/ Blue Stars 5th tier : ..................................... Blue Knights / Glassmen 6th tier :...Troopers/ Madison /Spirit / Colts /Academy / Crossmen 7th tier :.... Mandarins/ Pacific Crest/ Jersey Surf/ Pioneer/ Cascades Thoughts on these early going July 1st " tiers " ? Edited July 1, 2009 by BRASSO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_King Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 combine 4 and 5 they look weird with just 2 corps in one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRASSO Posted July 1, 2009 Author Share Posted July 1, 2009 combine 4 and 5 they look weird with just 2 corps in one. Based upon the scores through last night though, that grouping does not seem appropriate at this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitBos Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 I basically agree with the groupings, or "tiers" as you say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BozzlyB Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 So I guess "tiers" are just as subjective as judging appears to be at times. At this rate we'll have 23 different tiers, and when you keep randomly adding tiers with no real definition of the difference between them it kind of makes the whole thing pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 I agree with what you have. But I really hope nobody puts any stock into it. Go back and look at what these tiers would've looked like last year at this time compared to the final result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris ncsu Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 I think I would have placed it like this: Ist tier...............................................Carolina Crown, Blue Devils 2nd ( and lower tier) : ............................Holy Name Cadets, Cavs 3rd tier : ................................................Phantom / SCV ehh...somethign like that. think bluecoats are between PR/SCV and BAC/BS... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Laubhan Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 (edited) To me, the tiers are a little bit more about "clumping," as well as where I'd expect the corps who haven't performed in a day or two to be scoring. This is much less mathmatically defined, but visually, when you look at the graphs, there are generally some clear gaps in the overal data. Here's how I'd seperate them, given my overall "feel" of the scores: I: Crown, Cadets, Blue Devils II: Vanguard, Cavaliers, Phantom, Bluecoats III: Crusaders, Blue Stars, Blue Knights, Glassmen IV: Troopers, Scouts, Spirit, Colts, Academy, Crossmen V: Mandarins, Pacific Crest, Surf, Pioneer Edited July 1, 2009 by Keith Laubhan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesleyrp Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 (edited) I think it is impossible to group corps right now unless they compete nightly against each other.. Are we to believe that Boston jumped up 4 points in improvement in a day? I know the scores say so, but that would mean by the end of the season they will be the World Champs... When you consider that BK has not seen the G-Men, BAC or BS it is impossible to really get a handle on the scores.... Last year at this time BK and Blue Stars both were getting beat by the Colts which is not a slam against the Red Team, it's just not where they ended up down the road and once they really started having shows with more and more corps... BK's scores have levelled for the time being because they have not been around corps that are roughly the same compeitition right now. I think Bluecoats should be but BK is dirty compared to them and it is reflected in the score... Honestly if you looked at the scores this year, there does not seem to be a West Coast Bias or a Mid-West bias eiter. If anything this season scores are a joke until everyone sees full panels. One judge can give you a significant boost or drop u if they give a bad number.... Honestly here are the competitive brackets as I see them from observing corps on fan network based off of performance/cleanliness/design and not by scores... just my opinion and nothing more... 1-3) Crown, Cadets, BD 4-7) SCV, Phantom, Bluecoats, Cavies 8-10) BK, BS, BAC 11) G-Men 12-15) Troopers, Madison, Colts, Spirit (possibly Academy) Wes Perkins BK '97 '98 Edited July 1, 2009 by wesleyrp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Rott Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 To me, the tiers are a little bit more about "clumping," as well as where I'd expect the corps who haven't performed in a day or two to be scoring. This is much less mathmatically defined, but visually, when you look at the graphs, there are generally some clear gaps in the overal data.Here's how I'd seperate them, given my overall "feel" of the scores: I: Crown, Cadets, Blue Devils II: Vanguard, Cavaliers, Phantom, Bluecoats III: Crusaders, Blue Stars, Blue Knights, Glassmen IV: Troopers, Scouts, Spirit, Colts, Academy, Crossmen V: Mandarins, Pacific Crest, Surf, Pioneer I think I'm more comfortable with this one too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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