bawker Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 uh...cavaliers are in G7, that makes 11-11 Perhaps they are, but Adolph DeGrauwe's statement afterwards makes me think they won't vote for it if it stays in its current form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 a There was no discussion of the proposal before the vote for the further developlment and another presentation?That's where I'd imagine thing got hot.... Anyway sounds like you have a pipeline to a board member ! mwatches what I heard. and I dont blame them for being hot...they were railroaded into voting yay or nay for a proposal with a lot of holes in it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBSMYTH Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 If that's the case, then Dan A and DCI can easily demonstrate it to the current board members and the other directors. Some simple financial reports comparing 2009 to earlier years should convince everyone. And I agree with you that if there is no financial crisis, then the justification for the proposed massive changes looks pretty weak.OTOH, "solid year" can mean a lot of things, including "I'm not dead yet". Every arts non-profit I know of struggled in 2009 because no one is immune from a big recession. DCI reported a pretty substantial (~20%) revenue drop from 2007 to 2008. I would bet that there was another drop in 2009. We'll find out for sure this fall. I would guess that DCI is solvent, but with significantly lower revenues and liquid assets than they enjoyed at the 2007 peak. I don't have the exact figures that are going to appear on the 2009 990. I'm not sure anyone would at this point. (How long does it take for Guidestar to post the 990 reports?) That being said, my sources tell me that revenue was up slightly from 2008 to 2009. That sounds "solid" to me. Despite the crappy economy. Doesn't sound like the Fiscal Danger / Emergency / Crisis that is portrayed in Assertion #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiodb Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 My point is that many are viewing the proposal as some sort of manifesto instead of a starting point for discussion. What kind of "discussion" would you expect to take place with that as a "starting point"? I guess when the mugger says, "Gimme your wallet!", that's just the starting point for discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 If George was no longer in dci, would this proposal have been made a couple weeks ago? I'm not sure...maybe. But he has publicly pushing for a version of this for 13 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 I don't have the exact figures that are going to appear on the 2009 990. I'm not sure anyone would at this point. (How long does it take for Guidestar to post the 990 reports?)That being said, my sources tell me that revenue was up slightly from 2008 to 2009. That sounds "solid" to me. Despite the crappy economy. Doesn't sound like the Fiscal Danger / Emergency / Crisis that is portrayed in Assertion #1. I love that everyone on DCP has a "source" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBSMYTH Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 The sky isn't falling? Seems to me a serious thunderstorm hit the Board room recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rd&10 Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 You said earlier you were done posting uh...cavaliers are in G7, that makes 11-11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corpsband Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 Whatever you do, don't burn your BD T-Shirts...Us greedy, elitest G7 Sons-a-#####es need to stick together! Perhaps even back to back....armed! By the way, I don't know about you, but being around these boards the last few days after the G7 took "it" out, makes me feel like I'm in the last scene of "Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiodb Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 Saying "it is only a proposal" doesn't carry a lot of weight because they then immediately took action on one of the key components of the proposal - they began the process of a "change in direction" (Assertion 6A page 15) by voting to not renew the contract of the Executive Director. To be accurate, the G7 did not vote. They do not have the authority - yet. The Board of Directors consisting of 9 members - 4 of whom represent G7 corps - voted to not renew the contract. (All they needed was one additional vote of the remaining 5 to accomplish their goal.) Don't tell me "nothing happened". Playing with a man's career is not nothing. (joining BOBSMYTH fan club) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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