garfield Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I love Blast, but from what folks on here have said, I don't think it was ever really that profitable. It's a shame - I'd pay a pretty penny for an indoor, air conditioned, intimate drum corps show with multiple groups. Mike You mean like...ummm...I don't know...finals, maybe? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Boo Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I love Blast, but from what folks on here have said, I don't think it was ever really that profitable. It's a shame - I'd pay a pretty penny for an indoor, air conditioned, intimate drum corps show with multiple groups. Mike It took awhile to catch on, but once it did, it was very profitable. God bless them...they put in enough time and effort to make it a success. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickhaltsforlife Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Heck.. Blast! is still selling out theaters on their tour right now. And I they keep their tour fresh. They don't just tour to the major cities, they hit a lot of suburbs, perform in larger hs auditoriums. And I think that is what benefits them. They do a tour, but they keep things simple. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyboy Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I like to tell people "non-profit" really means that the primary purpose of the organization isn't profit, the primary purpose is something else. ie a drumcorps, a church, boy scouts etc. The primary purpose of a corporation is profit. That being said, you could really start a drumcorps as a for profit corporation if you wished. The only reason to do this, I think, would be to pay yourself a large salary and not have to answer to a board of directors. Some in DCI have figured out how to pay themselves a very decent living wage while running as a non-profit though, not bad to get paid to do what you love? Why not start a non-profit, enjoy tax exempt status, run it like a business and pump most of the profits back into the entity, all while paying yourself a six figure salary and driving a company car? Many non-profits run like this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoSurfBass Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Heck.. Blast! is still selling out theaters on their tour right now. And I they keep their tour fresh. They don't just tour to the major cities, they hit a lot of suburbs, perform in larger hs auditoriums. And I think that is what benefits them. They do a tour, but they keep things simple. Just saw them in Easton, PA last month... absolutely stunning job they did! ...and also, it didn't hit me until a few hours after the show that it was the first time I ever heard Malaguena live... I think it's about time that it gets unleashed to the World Class circuit once more. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Is there really an alternative? The communities that spawned the regional opportunities of the past don't exist any more. They've been replaced by the suburban sprawl that defines the geography and the mentality of today. If drum corps could confine its travels to closer competitions, it would. It doesn't because it can't. There aren't enough corps or communities to support the old way. Drum corps is no different in this respect than most other activities. My son might not play little league baseball this year because the local travel teams are changing the local dynamics. The castes created are driving away lesser talents and forcing the consolidation of multiple grades in the same division. Meanwhile at the other end of the spectrum, my daughter has been recruited out of her perfectly good dance school to "compete" for a better program which travels to bigger competitions. We may or may not be able to build more corps incrementally and slowly through the years. If we succeed, we might be able to support more regional touring. What we can't reverse is the ever-increasing demand in our society to raise the level of achievement and competition even if it comes at the expense of traditional models that worked for generations. That sort of evolution is inevitable and insensitive to the havoc it leaves behind. That's what killed off all those corps in the 70s, 80s and 90s. And that's why they're never coming back - at least not like before. HH and yet as we go down this path....they're still dropping off. And while we've been continually evolving to this path they died. in other words, as we've continued building as it were, to where we are now...they've died. In my area, I used to get 5-6 shows a year within an hours drive. always packed. Now I get one that runs every other year, plus Allentown 90 minutes away. I know a lot of fans whoused to go that won't now because of the distance. That's a lot of lost revenue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeN Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 It took awhile to catch on, but once it did, it was very profitable. God bless them...they put in enough time and effort to make it a success. Ah, there you go then. That's what I get for quoting secondhand on DCP... Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielray Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 and yet as we go down this path....they're still dropping off. And while we've been continually evolving to this path they died. in other words, as we've continued building as it were, to where we are now...they've died. In my area, I used to get 5-6 shows a year within an hours drive. always packed. Now I get one that runs every other year, plus Allentown 90 minutes away. I know a lot of fans whoused to go that won't now because of the distance. That's a lot of lost revenue. Lost revenue, likely. Lost profit, not likely. If it was profitable to go to these areas and do more shows, there would likely be more shows there. If you're looking at profitability, it is better to focus on getting as much revenue out of fewer but larger shows than it is to do many more small shows. In the case of the larger shows, while the base costs are certainly much more expensive, you have much greater capacity. Future should be in larger shows at larger venues and selling online access to these for those not able to attend due to proximity. There is so much more to do around the Fan Network... to make it interactive... engaging... and PROFITABLE. Anyway, because of technology, small shows make no sense anymore.... when you can get the same amount of revenue that show could make from virtual add ons to larger shows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Boo Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Ah, there you go then. That's what I get for quoting secondhand on DCP... Mike That's okay. I got my info from someone who used to be the producer, so it was a little more first-hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeN Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Lost revenue, likely. Lost profit, not likely. If it was profitable to go to these areas and do more shows, there would likely be more shows there. If you're looking at profitability, it is better to focus on getting as much revenue out of fewer but larger shows than it is to do many more small shows. In the case of the larger shows, while the base costs are certainly much more expensive, you have much greater capacity. Future should be in larger shows at larger venues and selling online access to these for those not able to attend due to proximity. There is so much more to do around the Fan Network... to make it interactive... engaging... and PROFITABLE. Anyway, because of technology, small shows make no sense anymore.... when you can get the same amount of revenue that show could make from virtual add ons to larger shows. Dovetailing with that, I wonder if it would make more sense to do fewer, larger shows in an area so that there are fewer locations needed for housing? I know the housing crunch is really getting to corps. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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