Jeff Ream Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Didn't you see the rule change? DUDE! rules were meant to be broken DUDE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perc2100 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 So who do these panels favour? Look bad for? Esp the finals judges???? * these panes favor shows with coherent designs that are performed flawlessly * they look bad for corps who are still marching and playing dirty 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Freedman Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 (edited) Based on frontensemble (so cool!) she judged BAC in Visual Analysis three times this year (6/25, 8/1, 8/3) and did not appear to give them any particular bump when looking at those dates on the Leaders board under V. Ana. True, their score dropped after she judged them on 8/1 and 8/3, but it was also higher before those dates. And on 6/25 she gave them the same score they had the previous night; 14.9. Looks Ok to me. Edit: This is about Debbie Torchia. Edited August 8, 2014 by Pete Freedman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMcomguy Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 (edited) For all of those Bluecoats fans out there, they have a somewhat favorable panel on Finals night. GE Kennedy: had Bluecoats over Cadets 3 of the last 4 shows... Kelly: had Bluecoats up most recently in Allentown... Stone: had Bluecoats up BY A MILE in Allentown... Dr. Nola: 0 for 6 (or 7?) for Bluecoats head to head with Cadets. Oh well. You win some, you lose some. Verdict: 3 of 4 favor Bluecoats Visual Chumley: 0'ferOliviero: Bluecoats up by A LOT in MassilonSolomon: 0'fer Verdict: 1 of 3... maybe MusicHarper: Never judged head to head, and very few shows this year -- tossup Markham: Twice had Cadets up by .1 -- tossup? Might favor the Cadets Kristensen: Had Bluecoats up on Cadets in ATL (tied BD overall)Rothe: Had Bluecoats up on Cadets in ATL (tied BD overall) Verdict: 2 of 4 likely... could be 3. Overall Likely 6 judges will have Bluecoats up. Could be 7, but I wouldn't bet the farm on it. The visual panels though will likely have severe spreads, possibly hurting their chance to catch The Cadets. This is just my observation in ten seconds of looking around. Edited August 8, 2014 by IMcomguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadet93 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Bluecoats will be 4th or 5th tonight in GE1 because of Marie and Sly but then stronger the rest of the weekend. Yep, last night was Bloos worst panel. I would expect them to be closer to Cadets tonight and tomorrow night. Saturday is their most favorable panel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Freedman Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 For all of those Bluecoats fans out there, they have a somewhat favorable panel on Finals night. GE Kennedy: had Bluecoats over Cadets 3 of the last 4 shows... Kelly: had Bluecoats up most recently in Allentown... Stone: had Bluecoats up BY A MILE in Allentown... Dr. Nola: 0 for 6 (or 7?) for Bluecoats head to head with Cadets. Oh well. You win some, you lose some. Verdict: 3 of 4 favor Bluecoats Visual Chumley: 0'fer Oliviero: Bluecoats up by A LOT in Massilon Solomon: 0'fer Verdict: 1 of 3... maybe Music Harper: Never judged head to head, and very few shows this year -- tossup Markham: Twice had Cadets up by .1 -- tossup? Might favor the Cadets Kristensen: Had Bluecoats up on Cadets in ATL (tied BD overall) Rothe: Had Bluecoats up on Cadets in ATL (tied BD overall) Verdict: 2 of 4 likely... could be 3. Overall Likely 6 judges will have Bluecoats up. Could be 7, but I wouldn't bet the farm on it. The visual panels though will likely have severe spreads, possibly hurting their chance to catch The Cadets. This is just my observation in ten seconds of looking around. Now this kind of thing I would say is very fair. While in theory all qualified judges should produce identical results, the system isn't perfect, and so different judges are likely to see things a bit differently. Measuring that and following it are perfectly reasonable. But saying that a certain judge favors a certain group in general is out of order unless you can really back it up with stats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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