Eleran Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 And FYI - Arkansas' House just passed their bill, which I believe is nearly identical to Indiana's, and has just one more step before hitting the desk of the governor. Even Walmart is against it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xandandl Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 And when has Walmart, who has had so many civil rights legislations against it in recent years on questions of fair pay and treatment of employees, the arbiter of truth? Yes they are a super large employer in Arkansas, but might doesn't make right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleran Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 And when has Walmart, who has had so many civil rights legislations against it in recent years on questions of fair pay and treatment of employees, the arbiter of truth? Yes they are a super large employer in Arkansas, but might doesn't make right. the irony being why I made mention of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xandandl Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Can't remember the keywords to look it up but same thing year or so ago with a Protestant minister in SE PA (Lancaster County?). He officated at his gay sons wedding and was removed from his church. Forget if he was considered no longer a minister or just in limbo because he did not have a church posting (whatever the term is). Still being fought out in some form and just can't remember the denomination. IIRC lot of his former congregation spoke up for him at the hearings and that possibly made the hieracrhy dig in their heels more. And Lincoln think the "Gods punishment" is the flip side of if you are good God will bless you with material things/winning the big games, etc, etc. At the Super Bowl few years back one player said they won because God blessed him/them. My first thought was "Guess God thought the other team was a bunch of heathens". The case in question there and another in CT involved Methodist clergy. The one in PA has been re-instated as properly noted by another poster. The one in CT involved a person who had once been Dean of the Divinity School at Yale.It was perceived that the power of his previous position might sway the point. His church says no, rellgious truth is not powered by public relations or what is currently popular. The case is still pending Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luv4corps Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 (edited) Mayors of both Portland and Seattle banned city-funded travel to Indiana because of this new law. Edited March 30, 2015 by luv4corps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xandandl Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Are you saying that Oregon Crusaders and Seattle Cascades are prohibited from going to Championships if they took any government grants as a youth activity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pes49 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 There seems to be major notice in the national news about the Change.org peitition about this situation. Does anyone know of any affect it has had on the powers that be at DCI? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincoln Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Are you saying that Oregon Crusaders and Seattle Cascades are prohibited from going to Championships if they took any government grants as a youth activity? It's in the news. Read the news. Please stop applying these things to the posters that post what is in the news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xandandl Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Somewhere early in the DCP threads and closed threads of this multi-faceted and nuanced discussion, several posters (3) made reference to the featured exhibition at DCI 2015 championships is supposedly to be the same marching band (LGBT) which marched in Obama's inaugural parade. I am surprised that given the volume of responses and hair-splitting of the topic that this aspect has not yet re-surfaced. There has been no complaint from supposedly anti-gay posters protesting this purported invitation to exhibit at championships and no questioning of what basis such an invitation is extended and by whom. There has been no challenge that since the group is not a drum and bugle corps or DCI corps alumni group that other bands have not been invited. For instance if Hopkins wanted his favorite Mummers band from Philadelphia or Gibbs favorite Suzuki school orchestra out there on the Left Coast. Why the special treatment for this group one might wonder especially since the invitation is supposedly from well before the Indiana legislation was even proposed for a vote in Indiana government? Are all being treated fairly or special treatment being given to some? If there are any of the DCI audience who are opposed to the special treatment and invitation, are they proposing their own boycott of championships, a counter-boycott of attending for the corps but leaving at the exhibitions, or does the lack of reaction just show that the whole issue of the Law, drum corps, and Indy is more than passion and pretense? To me the quiet nature, even non-questioning, may be a further sign of the budding maturity of DCP posters. Folks and pholks might just want to see drum corps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xandandl Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Because I see no mention of either corps is why I ask. You seem to be imploding. Take a chill pill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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