wonker Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Anybody else notice a big crackdown on YouTube in the past 7-10 days? Just within the past week or so, a ton of videos in my "liked" and "watch later" lists now show as deleted. In some cases, it appears a bit random when considering what is still available for viewing. In others, entire posters accounts have been banned. The one commonality? ALL have a banner across the top of the page saying that the videos or posters have been pulled due to copyright claims filed by Drum Corps International. Most of the In-the-Lot type of videos and warm-up videos remain, but any full-show vids (at least from the past couple of years) are completely wiped out. Out of uniform, rehearsal run-throughs seem to have been left alone so far. I am not complaining, or saying that it is good or bad in any way. Just curious as to what has changed or spurred the apparently new and sweeping campaign, or why the push to file the claims and delete the offending media appears to all be coming directly from DCI and no one else. Does anyone have any information as to what is going on in that regard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perc2100 Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Anybody else notice a big crackdown on YouTube in the past 7-10 days? Just within the past week or so, a ton of videos in my "liked" and "watch later" lists now show as deleted. In some cases, it appears a bit random when considering what is still available for viewing. In others, entire posters accounts have been banned. The one commonality? ALL have a banner across the top of the page saying that the videos or posters have been pulled due to copyright claims filed by Drum Corps International. Most of the In-the-Lot type of videos and warm-up videos remain, but any full-show vids (at least from the past couple of years) are completely wiped out. Out of uniform, rehearsal run-throughs seem to have been left alone so far. I am not complaining, or saying that it is good or bad in any way. Just curious as to what has changed or spurred the apparently new and sweeping campaign, or why the push to file the claims and delete the offending media appears to all be coming directly from DCI and no one else. Does anyone have any information as to what is going on in that regard? Posting video to YouTube by non-rights holders (or people who didn't already secure all necessary rights to post) is expressly forbidden/illegal. DCI is well within their rights to do so, and I suspect it wouldn't be unquestionable for rights holders or, say, Tresona, to ask DCI to do a better job policing those sights and taking-down video. Or DCI could be trying to be cool in order to keep relations copacetic w/Tresona/rights holders: a sort of "we're helping you/your clients keep control of their work" sort of gesture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tesmusic Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 This has happened on occasions before. I think it comes down to taking the time to go through and get the process of removal started. And to be honest, it is within the best interest of the corps and DCI to work to get these videos removed, with all the issues with Tresona and others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeN Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 DCI periodically sweeps through Youtube, as well as do the individual corps. Some are more forgiving, others (coughSCVcough) would be perfectly happy if they had no online presence whatsoever. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonker Posted May 3, 2016 Author Share Posted May 3, 2016 I understand that it's all within everyone's rights to pull them.......and was not complaining about it happening. This just seems bigger, sweeping and more wide-spread than I remember seeing at one time before.......and the most visual that I have ever seen DCI's name behind the policing of the videos being taken down. Given that it appears to be directed more at the videos of full shows from DCI events that are being pulled and not the In-the-Lot, warm-up and practice run-throughs of the exact same musical content, is there some line being established as to what falls under the responsibilities of DCI? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Thunder Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Given that it appears to be directed more at the videos of full shows from DCI events that are being pulled and not the In-the-Lot, warm-up and practice run-throughs of the exact same musical content, is there some line being established as to what falls under the responsibilities of DCI? It seems that many of the in-the-lot videos are actually promoted by DCI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tesmusic Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 DCI can go after videos taken from productions they have made, but they do not need to go after videos they did not produce. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 DCI can go after videos taken from productions they have made, but they do not need to go after videos they did not produce. DCI corporate is legally responsible for securing sync (aka video) rights of corps performances at all DCI events, which means that they are also supposed to do what they can to eliminate others from recording videos at those DCI events. So, DCI does need to do its own policing of copyright infringement issues concerning videos downloaded on the internet that contain actual DCI show performances recorded by non-authorized people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRASSO Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 (edited) One of the reasons ( among several ) that Corps do not like fans taping shows at their practices is because nothing legally prevents such tapes from being then uploaded to Youtube by the fan. DCI does not have any legal rights to a fan's uploading of a video of a Corps at practice to Youtube.. DCI does retain the legal rights ( and its inherent legal responsibilities ) to show performances however, and thus can, and does, remove its unauthorized use when it purges them from time to time on YouTube. Its not uncommon however to still see lots of Corps practices over the years still remaining on Youtube.... and for reasons just cited. Edited May 3, 2016 by BRASSO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 One of the reasons ( among several ) that Corps do not like fans taping shows at their practices is because nothing legally prevents such tapes from being then uploaded to Youtube by the fan. Not quite accurate: The Copyright Holder actually can legally hold the fan accountable for videoing a rehearsal and uploading it to the internet without their, the Copyright Holder's, specific authorization. Also, if corps do not engage in their own policing of non-authorized videoing/posting of their rehearsals they are likely to have a hard time securing future arranging permissions granted from Copyright Holders. And if DCI did not stay on top of policing non-authorized videoing/posting of their sanctioned shows they would also likely lose future sync permissions granted from copyright holders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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