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"As promised: enjoy this interview of Eliana Yamouni on her musical journey and her experiences with the Santa Clara Vanguard snareline this summer!" 

 

Great story, Rich. Thank you for sharing. 

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A collection of videos from "Girls March" facebook group:

Girls March
https://www.facebook.com/watch/girlsmarch/

Girls March  Motto:
For many of us, we simply wouldn't be who we are today if it weren't for the marching arts. It taught us the value of dedication, sacrifice, and the power of individuals working together toward the same goal. Once you find that group of people who accept you for you, who have the same burning passion for performance as you, hang onto them. This community is unlike any other.

Check out these highlighted videos:

Loving Amanda Muse’s newest lick! Are you feeling it? Hit Like A Girl Contest in the Marching Category
https://www.facebook.com/girlsmarch/videos/216861626115813/


This is Jamese Moses, and she won the Hit Like A Girl Contest in the Marching Category last year. She won performance opportunities, gear, and more!
https://www.facebook.com/girlsmarch/videos/511145602936019/


This may not be the norm for most of us yet, but 7 of the 8 snare drummers on this line are women! They are members of the NSDQ Drumline from the island of Java in Indonesia. Give them a follow, it’s a great opportunity to strengthen our global community!
https://www.facebook.com/girlsmarch/videos/462705797725057/


Did you see the Round Rock HS cymbal line at BOA Grand Nationals this weekend? These ladies are FIERCE!
https://www.facebook.com/girlsmarch/videos/2354078254717709/


Bluecoats Bass - DCI Alanta 2019:
Last but not least, how about our bird’s eye view of center bass Genevieve Hilburn! Can we give a “tap tap” 💙 for her holdin down those split turnarounds?! 🙌🏻 Yaaas Girl!!
https://www.facebook.com/girlsmarch/videos/2655209324512284/


Carolina Crown Bass 2019:
Our In The Lot hype continues with Anne Saber and Carolina Crown drums. In case you’re wondering, chops like these are gender neutral.
https://www.facebook.com/girlsmarch/videos/1468715639920208/


Blue Stars Bass 2019:
Missing some In The Lot action? While the Blue Stars are enjoying their free day in DC, we’ll just have to make due with some action from this past Atlanta Regional.
https://www.facebook.com/girlsmarch/videos/471562096724235/


Lick number 5, featuring Eliana Yamouni! She’s a beast of a player and an inspiration to drummers everywhere, proving that regardless of who we are, we’re just trying to figure out how to turn our left hands 😉 This is a lick from her rookie season of Vanguard, 2018. Enjoy!
https://www.facebook.com/girlsmarch/videos/395044948008443/


Thank you to all the women like Taylor and her best friend from drum corps for paving the way for women in drumlines
Meeting up again with ya best friend in Drum Corps after 47 years..... we still got it!
https://www.facebook.com/girlsmarch/videos/1294756954011820/


We mentioned 2018 Hit Like A Girl champ Amanda Muse, but have you heard her yet and are you following her!?
She has built her career doing this, don’t sleep on it 
https://www.facebook.com/girlsmarch/videos/290368018304258/


about a year ago ... BOA: All we want for Christmas is a lady quadline
https://www.facebook.com/girlsmarch/videos/767229143626365/


about 2 years ago .. Still obsessing over this opener 🤩Sandi Rennick, SCV arranger and Girls March faculty member, sent us the music to this excerpt 😱 You can download it off of our website: www.girlsmarch.org
https://www.facebook.com/girlsmarch/videos/2159144001024551/
 

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2 hours ago, Rich Cline said:

You are correct but you miss the point of these posts.

In no way were women being disparaged for their roles in playing an instrument previously considered as "male dominated".

They are being honored for their contribution to music which is worthy of respect and admiration.

I hope the thought here is not that I am disparaging anyone. I very much appreciate what everyone, men and women, have contributed to the marching arts. Elite musicians and performers should always be respected and admired and most certainly by those of us who have filled those same shoes as an MM and know the dedication that it takes. 

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9 hours ago, Rich Cline said:

A Comparison; The Representation of Male and Female Musicians

You are correct but you miss the point of these posts.

In no way were women being disparaged for their roles in playing an instrument previously considered as "male dominated".

They are being honored for their contribution to music which is worthy of respect and admiration.

Women who have previously participated in "drum corps" have gone on to successful careers in music but the number is still small for those who have gone on to be a
successful brass or drumming instrument performers.

Consider the following:

Santa Clara Vanguard on Twitter: Eliana Yamouni "I'm here to be a snare, not a girl snare drummer."
Girls March
August 11, 2018 · 
As promised: enjoy this interview of Eliana Yamouni on her musical journey and her experiences with the Santa Clara Vanguard snareline this summer!

 

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The 50 Greatest Drummers of All Time (Modern Drummer Article)
Entries written by Adam Budofsky, Michael Dawson, and Michael Parillo
https://www.moderndrummer.com/article/march-2014-50-greatest-drummers-time/

None of the drummers listed are female.

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100 Greatest Drummers of All Time (Rollingstone Drummer Article)
From rock thunder machines to punk powerhouses, we count down the kings and queens of slam
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/100-greatest-drummers-of-all-time-77933/

Only a small number of the drummers represented are female.

97 Cindy Blackman In 1993
94 Meg White
90 Janet Weiss
58 Sheila Escovedo

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Women and Drumming (x8drums Article Exerts)
https://www.x8drums.com/blog/women-and-drumming/

"The number of women drummers may be smaller in comparison to that of men, especially in modern, performance-based music, but there are plenty of women drummers who
can not only keep up with the boys, but who also are leading the way for young girls to express themselves through the magic of drumming and percussion."

"While the numbers of female drummers are still low, these modern women drummers and their forerunners like Karen Carpenter of The Carpenters or Moe Tucker of Velvet
Underground are making their own way and inspiring others to pick up the beat."

"According to different Native cultural legends, while the drum may have been an innately female instrument, women handed it over to the men in their tribes as a way
to help the men connect with earth, much in the same way the women felt connected. With the influence of outside cultures, it became easier for these tribes to adopt
the same practices of male dominance, even in drumming, and today, many Native cultures still keep drumming as a male-only spiritual and celebratory practice. However,
with the popularity of drumming on the rise, the number of women who are participating in drumming or drum circles outside of cultural boundaries is also rising,
recreating this important connection between drums, spirituality and femininity and bringing an equal perception to the role of women as drummers."

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Orchestrated Sex: The Representation of Male and Female Musicians in World-Class Symphony Orchestras
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2019.01760/full#tab1
Original Research ARTICLE 
Front. Psychol., 16 August 2019 | https://doi.org/10.3389/fpsyg.2019.01760

This study examines the representation of male and female musicians in world-class symphony orchestras. Personnel of 40 orchestras of three regions, the UK, Europe,
and the USA, and distributions of men and women across the four orchestral departments, strings, woodwind, brass, and percussion, are compared.


Data Collection Orchestral Membership

Modern symphony orchestras list an average of 100–120 musicians; though regional orchestras tend to be smaller than those based in major or capital cities. Overall,
across all instruments, a significant majority of the musicians of the orchestras reviewed were male (56.7%, p < 0.0001), but there were highly significant regional
differences in male-female proportions.

In the following sections, we present an objective analysis of the current representation of male and female musicians holding tenured positions in orchestras across
the world, and the instruments on which they perform.

Violin: women were numerically predominant in the violin sections (p < 0.000), but assignments of men and women to 1st and 2nd violin positions were not significantly
different (χ2 = 0.73, not sig.).

Flute: A majority of flautists were female (57.04%, p < 0.021).

Almost all harpists were female (p < 0.0000). A number of orchestras do not list contracted harpists, engaging players whenever repertoire necessitates.

Males predominated in all brass sections (p < 0.0001). Where women were present, they were typically found among French horns. In two orchestras, principals in the
trombone section were women. In one orchestra, the principal tuba was a woman.

No tympanists were female, and only 12.5% (p < 0.0001) of other percussionists were female.


Principal Chairs

Across the 40 orchestras reviewed, 83.2% of persons occupying Principal chairs were male, and 16.8% were women; 64.82% 


Length of Engagement

Men typically serve more years than women (mean duration for men of 19.3 years compared with 16.65 years for women, differences significant t = 6.26, df = 9, p <
0.0001). 


Women’s Presence in Orchestras in Relation to General Labor Market

See Table 3. Order of sex typing of orchestral instruments based on proportions of girls and boys receiving instrumental tuition on each instrument (ordered from data
of Hallam et al., 2008). 


Relation of Pre-conservatoire Students in Tuition to Representation of Sexes in Orchestras

See Figure 5. Growth trends in women’s orchestral membership during the period of 1970–2015 compared with growth trends in women’s presence in the overall workforce.

See Figure 6. Percentages of girls and boys receiving tuition on each orchestral instrument.


Instrument Choice

A prominent feature of young students’ choice of instruments that has received considerable attention is the characteristic preference by girls for higher-pitched,
smaller and lighter instruments, and boys for lower-pitched, larger, and heavier instruments (Hallam et al., 2008; De Vous, 2011), and this phenomenon is sharply
evidenced in Figure 6.


Review, Commentary, and Questions for Further Research

The comparative representation of men and women in professional orchestras is an issue of considerable complexity in which many disparate variables intersect. On prima
facie evidence, our review of 40 world-class orchestras shows that overall male musicians have a greater numerical presence, significantly outnumbering females by a
ratio of 60% males: 40% females.


Regional Differences in Sex Representation

Adjustments to the overall balance of sexes in orchestras can therefore only take effect over a relatively extended period of time.
 

I never said what you attributed to me.  🤒  Methinks that you have the wrong person.  Lots of nice info in your response, though.

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Carla Azar from the OP's list marched snare for BD in 1984.  2nd from audience left end.

I believe she was Spirit before.

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11 hours ago, 84BDsop said:

Carla Azar from the OP's list marched snare for BD in 1984.  2nd from audience left end.

I believe she was Spirit before.

Yes sir, she was Spirit in '82. 

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