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8 hours ago, scheherazadesghost said:

I know you didn't ask me so feel free to not read...

But I don't want a corps that hurts members and alum anymore. In my overall interactions with current leadership and fellow alum close to them, AND upon objective critical review of their skillets and across, AND upon witnessing their rigidity when faced with verifiable safeguarding gaps, I don't see them as capable of achieving this benchmark without outside consult at this point. I have never given up hope though and I've tried to engage them about this but their response has consistently included victim blaming, silencing, or extraction. Such responses to my advocacy are well-documented here on this forum. Intentionally.

If this is happening to me, it's much more important to consider how they might be treating younger, less experienced whistleblower-alum?

As for a purge, I've already attempted to post my reasoning here for being concerned about some long term board members on April 21... it's noted on my profile as having the highest reactions on DCP that day, but it was censored. I was in copacetic communication with the mods about this.

I'm at a loss about what else to do to express my concerns in a way that alum will find palatable.

there are so many concerns that need addressed that priorities will need to be made. sadly the financial ones will be made first, but in the end that could help your concerns in time when financing is in better shape

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12 minutes ago, Jeff Ream said:

sadly this is true of many alumni organizations. don't look at Madison threads or archived cadets threads

Unacceptable.

10 minutes ago, Jeff Ream said:

there are so many concerns that need addressed that priorities will need to be made. sadly the financial ones will be made first, but in the end that could help your concerns in time when financing is in better shape

Thanks, but you're preaching to choir. I also find it unacceptable that the abuse takes a back seat to finances. I argue that those of us who marched, and other so called professionals should be able to walk and chew gum.

I haven't even come close to fully illustrating the long term effects this abuse has had on alum. Yes we cry together, but then we return to living our lives enduring the visceral, tangible side effects of the abuse. One of mine is called high impact chronic pain, a term coined and used by the federal government.

While this is unacceptable to me, I've always argued that the organizational mismanagement is inextricably linked to the abuse.  But I knew that as a young member, so nothing new.

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18 minutes ago, cixelsyd said:

Maybe it would be uncalled for if the G7 had ever publicly retracted their money/power grabbing proposals, or even just apologized for stabbing all the other corps and the DCI organization in the back.  But no such remorse has been shown. 

Seven corps openly proposed making other corps go away.  Not hard to see how/why a similar sentiment could boomerang on them.  I do not like it, but I can understand where it comes from.

yup. we saw a lot of it in April 2018

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11 hours ago, AzEuph said:

@Richard Lesher, I’m genuinely curious: what’s your preferable end result?

Are you trying to get back on board, get current board terminated, become director, destroy VMAPA?  I genuinely can’t tell and have been curious all of these past 9 months.

I am a total bystander, and I can tell.

Numerous people (several of whom are on these threads) have offered to help.  That would have been the preferable option, but they were turned down.  Now the current board are bunkering; there is no way to "terminate" them.  You can only hope that before time expires, they will do the right thing and abdicate before they actually destroy VMAPA.

And I chose my words purposefully.  If VMAPA is destroyed, it will be destroyed by the people in charge of it who are driving it full speed through the barricades toward the brick wall ahead.

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7 minutes ago, scheherazadesghost said:

Unacceptable.

Thanks, but you're preaching to choir. I also find it unacceptable that the abuse takes a back seat to finances. I argue that those of us who marched, and other so called professionals should be able to walk and chew gum.

I haven't even come close to fully illustrating the long term effects this abuse has had on alum. Yes we cry together, but then we return to living our lives enduring the visceral, tangible side effects of the abuse. One of mine is called high impact chronic pain, a term coined and used by the federal government.

While this is unacceptable to me, I've always argued that the organizational mismanagement is inextricably linked to the abuse.  But I knew that as a young member, so nothing new.

never said it was acceptable. stating reality. as for financial....sadly to truly clean it up, you need money. you need to hire the right people which isn't cheap. you need to invest in the right respurces to eliminate it going forward, and if need be to help take care of past issues. when you're in the hole financially, sadly you have to make decisions. in my youth, it often came to eating or say putting $30 on the cable bill to watch a WWE PPV. ahhh youth...had to watch Stone Cold!

then the cable bill came, and i needed food. oh oops..no cable for a week, i had to eat.

 

SCV as an organization is going to need money to put a lot of good people in place and get resources rolling to fix a vast majority of problems. and no one with specific concerns on any problem will be happy because their priority isn't top of the list.

 

is it right? maybe, maybe not. but before they can dig deep enough to right the wrongs of the past and get things rolling forward, finances will dictate many hard decision to get good governance in place and put the organization on solid footing to eventually get everything right. and you, and other stake holders for a variety of issues won't like it, but it's fact.

my day job just cut thousands of employees to get costs under control and fix several internal issues. in some ways in actually made things worse though the outside world doesn't see it. i vent loudly and often when it affects my ability to do my job. i realize the big picture and think there were better ways to go about it, but i realize in many cases, financial decisions had to be made. i don't like some of them, even if i understand they underlying reasons why. i could go elsehwere but in this market, dream gigs don't exist.

 

the same will be true for SCV. not every priority to every person is the one that needs addressed first. because sometimes if you pick the wrong priority, you make it worse.....i know i've felt the pain daily since late February

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3 minutes ago, cixelsyd said:

I am a total bystander, and I can tell.

Numerous people (several of whom are on these threads) have offered to help.  That would have been the preferable option, but they were turned down.  Now the current board are bunkering; there is no way to "terminate" them.  You can only hope that before time expires, they will do the right thing and abdicate before they actually destroy VMAPA.

And I chose my words purposefully.  If VMAPA is destroyed, it will be destroyed by the people in charge of it who are driving it full speed through the barricades toward the brick wall ahead.

there is a way to fix a board that hunkers down and ignores help. we saw it in April 2018 and again in the fall of 2018

 

DCI tells them massive change is needed or membership is revoked. one complied. one is still riding to parades in busses that should have been impounded in the 80's

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15 minutes ago, Jeff Ream said:

never said it was acceptable. stating reality. as for financial....sadly to truly clean it up, you need money. you need to hire the right people which isn't cheap. you need to invest in the right respurces to eliminate it going forward, and if need be to help take care of past issues. when you're in the hole financially, sadly you have to make decisions. in my youth, it often came to eating or say putting $30 on the cable bill to watch a WWE PPV. ahhh youth...had to watch Stone Cold!

then the cable bill came, and i needed food. oh oops..no cable for a week, i had to eat.

 

SCV as an organization is going to need money to put a lot of good people in place and get resources rolling to fix a vast majority of problems. and no one with specific concerns on any problem will be happy because their priority isn't top of the list.

 

is it right? maybe, maybe not. but before they can dig deep enough to right the wrongs of the past and get things rolling forward, finances will dictate many hard decision to get good governance in place and put the organization on solid footing to eventually get everything right. and you, and other stake holders for a variety of issues won't like it, but it's fact.

my day job just cut thousands of employees to get costs under control and fix several internal issues. in some ways in actually made things worse though the outside world doesn't see it. i vent loudly and often when it affects my ability to do my job. i realize the big picture and think there were better ways to go about it, but i realize in many cases, financial decisions had to be made. i don't like some of them, even if i understand they underlying reasons why. i could go elsehwere but in this market, dream gigs don't exist.

 

the same will be true for SCV. not every priority to every person is the one that needs addressed first. because sometimes if you pick the wrong priority, you make it worse.....i know i've felt the pain daily since late February

Heard, and I didn't intend to imply that I thought you found it acceptable. Merely strongly stating my stance on reaction to your points. I appreciate your contributions to this thread.

This is all why I brought up the BAC a few pages back. That army of volunteers on their board is formidable and aren't paid a dime. Yes, I have told VMAPA I wouldn't provide them my expertise for free anymore. However, that was after they bungled my actual offer to volunteer on their diversity and equity efforts.

That relationship is all but destroyed, and while I'm always open to mending fences, it remains unlikely that our priorities will align. I would still be willing to volunteer my time to help them recruit other volunteer professionals (not my friends) and build the environment necessary to retain them. A career spent in youth arts non profits and higher ed is a sad thing to waste, but as @cixelsyd said, I'm far from the only one.

Moving forward with alum like us requires a kind of humility I've rarely seen exhibited by the current crew or ever.

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20 minutes ago, Reggi93 said:

I'm incredibly hesitant to wade into this but I'm going to address a couple of things that popped out to me.  More just a curiousity than anything else.

1- SCV's new treasurer is in North Carolina and you point at that as a bad thing.  My organization's board is literally scattered across the country.  Our Treasurer does NOT live in the same state as the Org.  As a matter of fact, MOST of the board doesn't live in or near the home base of the org.  It's a digital zoom kind of world and access to financials and the ability to do a job well no longer demand you be in town where the office is so I do question why you paint their location as a detriment as they are not in CA like the old treasurer apparently was.  Especially since (IMO) the old treasurer catastrophically failed at their job. 

2.  The hiring and firing of Brett B- I'm surprised you didn't bring up his past involvement with his BFF's dalliances with a member of their community theatre that got him in hot water (once again IMO) far more than the rumors circulating that he wanted to disband the A corps.  In fact, the theatre drama only exposed a lack of due diligence on the part of the hiring committee that to me was a bigger issue. 

3. (or maybe 2.5) Also in regards to the hiring and firing of Brett B-  Drum corps as a hiring practice is incredibly nepotistic and full of cronyism.  We all talk about back room deals.  Everyone has a friend that would be perfect and half our design staffs bring their own down chain staff.  As orgs transition from kitchen table drum corps to fully realized multi-million dollar Non profits with not only a touring group but community centric programming, educational programming, and god knows what other revenue earning ventures, your buddy from Black Knights or whatever may no longer be qualified for the job.  It forces organizations to diversify and look outside the bubble.  Hiring Brett B the person turned out to be a disaster.  But hiring a CEO that had a performance education and theater background was not so outside the box for an org like SCV that had been expanding into community rooted performance ensembles beyond the A and B corps.  Phantom Regiment just hired a CEO that has little to no experience in Drum Corps but comes with OODLES of experience in revenue diversification and Youth Education programming.  This is a good fit for an org trying to expand revenue streams and community programming while re-establishing its roots and involvement in Rockford.  Build a team around her to worry about the nuance of drum corps.  Maintain a supportive BOD that can guide and support someone like her successfully and the fact that she came from outside of drum corps won't matter. 

4. Lastly, I understand you're wanting to bring this all to light.  But your ego is a turnoff.  I don't care that you are tired, or numb, or feel like your website move should get more attention.  Do it for the work and less for your standing.  When you insert yourself and what recognition you think you should be getting for all of this, it's a turn off and makes me thing you are doing this more for your own grandstanding and less for the good of the organization as you claim.  

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