MikeD Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Sorry if I make too much sense. Dave, Let me fix that typo for you.... Sorry if I do not make too much sense. There, that's MUCH better! :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glory Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 What difference does it make? I don't know that it does. I'm merely trying to gauge whether those who are offended are offended more by the use of amps or by their use, potentially, by a staff member. Someone said it was a choice between evils. Which is the lesser evil in your view? HH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalazz Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 1. Jeff... preprogrammed sounds are illegal. No one's going to be using them. It's pretty obvious when someone is using samples. 2. Half of the replies on here are just anti-amplification. That's not the point. The point is: If we are going to use amps, we need to use them correctly. 3. It's not like the staff member is some big mix-master in control over the entire drum corps. This is where people are over reacting. The kids behind the speakers cannot tell what's coming out of the speakers. This is why you wouldn't make someone mix from behind the speakers. All the staff person would be doing is adjusting for proper balance. Would you ask a theatre group to mix from the stage? A rock band? How about an outdoor amplified symphony? It would sound awful. Everyone is forgetting one simple thing. SOUND Current drum corps members are unbelievably talented and they care about the best quality sound. Someone has to be IN FRONT of the speakers PERIOD. A couple more notes: **Soundchecks are not enough. Just because there is sound coming out of the speakers before you start the show doesn't mean it's going to balance with everything else **Balance should be reflected in score. If the amps are unbalanced and sound bad, the judges should take notice. Just because we are now allowing amplification doesn't mean that we should allow it to sound awful. (Like last year) **Feedback should be just as unacceptable as a cracked note. It should also reflect in the GE score. Dallas Former Drum Corps Member Audio Mixer - Fox & G4 Television Los Angeles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCVsopAaron Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 yet Mike, so many people have publically disagreed with you. and if the sound WAS better, then why the need for this rule change? I agree with him. YAY MIKE!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrumCorpsFan27 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 There was once actually. It was acoustic brass and percussion. Sounded pretty good every night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrumCorpsFan27 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Seems to me the best way to "balance the mix" is to do away with the amps all together and tell the kids to practice more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newterak Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 i think a lot of people would agree that the biggest problem is the implications of this rule and the future impact on the activity. Whats to keep from adding non members to various aspects of the performance if we start doing this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bawker Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Whats to keep from adding non members to various aspects of the performance if we start doing this? Nothing, really. :) + = Aw yeah...yup, yup, yeah. DCI is about to get CRUNKED UP! ^0^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn craig Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 (edited) 1. Jeff... preprogrammed sounds are illegal. No one's going to be using them. It's pretty obvious when someone is using samples.2. Half of the replies on here are just anti-amplification. That's not the point. The point is: If we are going to use amps, we need to use them correctly. 3. It's not like the staff member is some big mix-master in control over the entire drum corps. This is where people are over reacting. The kids behind the speakers cannot tell what's coming out of the speakers. This is why you wouldn't make someone mix from behind the speakers. All the staff person would be doing is adjusting for proper balance. Would you ask a theatre group to mix from the stage? A rock band? How about an outdoor amplified symphony? It would sound awful. Everyone is forgetting one simple thing. SOUND Current drum corps members are unbelievably talented and they care about the best quality sound. Someone has to be IN FRONT of the speakers PERIOD. A couple more notes: **Soundchecks are not enough. Just because there is sound coming out of the speakers before you start the show doesn't mean it's going to balance with everything else **Balance should be reflected in score. If the amps are unbalanced and sound bad, the judges should take notice. Just because we are now allowing amplification doesn't mean that we should allow it to sound awful. (Like last year) **Feedback should be just as unacceptable as a cracked note. It should also reflect in the GE score. Dallas Former Drum Corps Member Audio Mixer - Fox & G4 Television Los Angeles If the judges are giving and denying credit based on the balance in the ensemble area, the fact that a staff member is controlling at least some of that balance means the decisions that staff member makes and the direct action he/she takes DURING THE PERFORMANCE is affecting the score. I don't think that should be allowed. Edited January 30, 2006 by shawn craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrumCorpsFan27 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Because the adjustments are not impacting the actual production of the sounds of the members, yes, I have no issue with this. In fact, it will help what is actually being played come across even better if there is some sort of issue with the amps. It doesn't change the physical performance by the members at all. DCI can do no wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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