sobe Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 If used for amping pit instruments, keep them. If used amping voice or anything else BURN them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmpiano Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 Kill the vocals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentleman Marcher Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 No vote. I'm split on the matter. Effects percussion, like the one tiny drum from BD '04? Fine by me. Narration? I'm probably the only person who liked the narrator for BD '05, but overall, I'm against it. Drumspeak? I liked both 'Coats and Cadets in '05. Singing? Ehhh. Shouldn't be done in ensemble, and feature singers don't do much for me either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orpheus Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 Can't vote on this one ... I'm for amplification of the pit percussion instruments, but generally against using it for voice. I don't always hate amplified voice, necessarily, but I'd rather it had never been introduced to DCI at all. Would rather keep the emphasis on the brass and percussion ... heck, I don't even like unamplified singing in corps (or marching band). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMichael1230 Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 (edited) The voice, through a microphone, will always, always sound unnatural, and not coming from the point of origin. It will sound confined, forced, never open and free like the sound coming from the drum or the horn or the ensemble, unamplified voice for that matter. It will always be less than top notch, unlike the performances the kids produce naturally. We will hear a loud, beautiful, full pasage of music, then an electronicaly altered voice sounding every bit out of place. It has been that way on every occasion so far, if the equipment doesnt cause reverb, or malfunction altogether, you will get a worldclass drum corps performance with a 10th grade drama club vocal accompaniment. ~G~ Edited June 27, 2006 by GMichael1230 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drumcat Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 It might *seem* radical, but if amps were pulled, wouldn't everyone go "whshew"? How about a compromise... you get to use your Long Ranger. Huh? It's perfect... it keeps all the "effects", but it's limitations of one mic, one speaker keep it used for just that... In other words, if you had the rule for one long ranger with one mic, you would have had: Cavies effects in 007 Cavies spin-whistle this year BD hand drum / train effects Yowza! Cadets' Bjork-speak Boston's hand-coloring Crown's "make loooooove" Seattle's err-borne You'd have not had: 525,600 reasons Cadets' drumspit session Bluecoats drumspeak (by multiple performers anyhow) Cadets' singing this year (not a full frequency spectrum) It gets back to the idea that effects are good, but adding a fundamentally different "voice" isn't. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 The pit instruments worked well for the first twenty or so years, the amplification of the pit was not a concern until what, four years ago ?? My opinion for what it's worth.....amps are not needed !! B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 ampssuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Harrison Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 The pit instruments worked well for the first twenty or so years, the amplification of the pit was not a concern until what, four years ago ??My opinion for what it's worth.....amps are not needed !! B) But one could also argue that the pits of the amped era are among the nicest sounding pits in DCI history. Would SCV's pit in '04 (arguably the nicest sounding pit ever) have been the same without amping? Was it because they had 7 age outs??? Who knows??? I'm in the catagory of go ahead and mic the PERCUSSION instruments. Heck I would even like to see a guitar or bass guitar in the front ensembles (they have done wonders for the WGI pits). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHTFLY3000 Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 Keep 'em. The possibilities are too much fun, and yes that includes amped vocals. Like any element of a show, vocals can be done well or done poorly. The instances in which they are done poorly do not suggest that amped vocals are inherently worthless, anymore than an out of tune hornline means that we should scrap brass. None of this "Get Rid Of The Amps" discussion is about poorly performed anything. It's about electronic vs. acoustic, pure and simple. B) KEEP DRUM CORPS UNPLUGGED! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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