cire Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 They do test them, but they also make the adjustments *as a part of the show's course*. They're planned adjustments. Not to mention, an instructor can also just mix out someone having a bad night... too bad its not like sports.. SUB!!! haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madscout96 Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Well considering that to make all the levels perfect would require a sound check that there is pretty much no time for, and also that corps are performing in different acoustical environments every night, I would say give them 1 or 2 "free" adjustments during the show. After that, start penalizing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony L. Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Well considering that to make all the levels perfect would require a sound check that there is pretty much no time for, and also that corps are performing in different acoustical environments every night, I would say give them 1 or 2 "free" adjustments during the show. After that, start penalizing. I don't know, apparently the Cadets ad a 6-7 min. delay and they weren't penalized. I forget exactly what show it was at, but I think it was this week. So by al means, the corps should just take their time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancerlady Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 (edited) They do test them, but they also make the adjustments *as a part of the show's course*. They're planned adjustments. Not to mention, an instructor can also just mix out someone having a bad night... See you just can't do a one time adjustment and walk away. You have to take everything into consideration when running sound. Sound travels up and the acoustics of it all... it just doesn't work that way. You have all sorts of outside interferences going on that have to be managed. That's why I am against this idea. They should just have the pits amped and have someone run it from down there, someone in the corps. That way the performance is still in the kids hands and not in the adults. However, with the way it's done now you have to have someone at the board mixing at all times. Anything can happen. Running live sound in any venue is a constant job. Take it from someone who has been in the music business. What I don't like is once I read somewhere where a certain director was at the sound panel, no this should not be. That is not fair. But if they are going to "play" this way they should be penalized in general effect and have it be part of GE scoring. Edited July 27, 2006 by Lancerlady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamarag Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Rediculous. What about times in the show where you are making changes on the board intentionally? From pads to mutes, to adjustments to reverb, etc. There are too many things a corps can and should be able to do without restriction. Look, I didn't care for the electornics rule, but it's here. Let's at least make it as easy as possible within the scope of the rules for a corps to make it work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbiquad2001 Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Every stadium is acoustically different, so if the corps can't do a soundcheck, then staff should be able to adjust the volume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cire Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Every stadium is acoustically different, so if the corps can't do a soundcheck, then staff should be able to adjust the volume. thats BS.. ever heard "is your corps ready?" everyone has time to warmup on the field.. move around, get their props out, get their pit set up.. you arend putting the sound board together piece by piece, you roll it out.. hook up some wires. if you cant get it set up in the allotted time, you should be penalized. if you cant make it work in the time given, done use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancerlady Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 thats BS.. ever heard "is your corps ready?"everyone has time to warmup on the field.. move around, get their props out, get their pit set up.. you arend putting the sound board together piece by piece, you roll it out.. hook up some wires. if you cant get it set up in the allotted time, you should be penalized. if you cant make it work in the time given, done use it. It's not BS it's the truth. Every stadium is acoustically different because it's different every where you perform. Sound is more then just rolling out some wires and hooking them up. This is the reason I've been saying it's not going to work with drum corps, too many things affecting the overall quality of the show. Have you ever done live sound before in any venue? Just wondering... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeBob Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 I think this rule should have two parts: 1. No volume adjustment on the soundboard during the show. 2. Volume on the soundboard starts at zero. Play ball! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancerlady Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 I wish someone who has run sound professionally would come on in this discussion and help out. I am not for the sound board period, but if you are going to have it they should be at the board running the sound. You can't restrict it but what they could do is block them from touching the knobs on certain things to cheat. There are ways to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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