dianel Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 Low Hundreds......$75000.00 per summer tour vs $2500.00 per summer tour. Plus pay for housing. For a corps to come out of Florida, let alone South Florida for that kind of money, means they better have one heck-uv-a bank account. In Florida, you don't get paid to do parades. So you have to go up North to get paid for parades.Also, there is no Bingo to speak of. If you had it, you can only run 2 nights, with a relatively small pot compared to other bingos in the country. For a Corps to operate in Div 2 or 1 with 3 busses, 2 semis, staff, food, fuel, etc., count on a 300-500 thousand dollar budget per year. THATS why KK wants to be out as a Div 1 corps! Any Corps out of Florida has to be Div. 1 to survive financially. Especially since there are no shows within 8 hrs at least. Once you go out on the road, you have to stay there. That was one of the good things about DCM. Lots of shows within a couple hours, and the 2/3 and Sr. corps were paid better per show for the most part. Written from experience, eh? It ain't rocket surgery. Not to mention the fact that other corps object to coming to Florida to compete or perform...cost, weather and whatnot...so, it's difficult to host shows....another big budget line item on the income side for many corps. Nice to know you are still out there! <-- in honor of the KK 2002 Show Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tubawarrior Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 http://www.kiwaniskavaliers.org/News/Kaval...PR01252007.html well they just announced they are staying inactive...so I suppose all we can do is wait til next year and see what they do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerFan04 Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 (edited) http://www.kiwaniskavaliers.org/News/Kaval...PR01252007.html Edit: Nevermind, I post too slow. lol Edited January 25, 2007 by SoonerFan04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drumcat Posted January 25, 2007 Author Share Posted January 25, 2007 And they will be forced to re-enter as D2/3... very interesting points, all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 And they will be forced to re-enter as D2/3... very interesting points, all. They won't be forced. If they can show that they have the financial stability to participate in a full summer tour, keep the members experience positive and healthy, and stay within the boundaries of their mission statement with productive and realistic goals, then they can be approved for division I status without having to compete in either division II or III. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 I would suggest that if a corps' budget and their ability to tour hinges on contest fees they are not adequately prepared to return to competition. Have you seen how tight a corps' budget can be, especially during the summer? There aren't many corps that don't depend on contest fees, especially while traveling. You guys are really jumping to conclusions to condemn them for not "using" Division II when it's not their decision what division they go to anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 They won't be forced. If they can show that they have the financial stability to participate in a full summer tour, keep the members experience positive and healthy, and stay within the boundaries of their mission statement with productive and realistic goals, then they can be approved for division I status without having to compete in either division II or III. I am pretty sure that if a corps is inactive for more than one year, they HAVE to return to competition through Division II/III, Dutch Boy had to when they took three years to get their house together back in the mid 90's !! But I could be wrong !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Again, that rule is now null and void because the process for entering Div. I has changed. When that rule was enforced with Magic, it was when corps from II/III could move to compete in Div. I quarterfinals; that's no longer the case, and now corps must be approved by a committee in order to compete in Div. I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tubawarrior Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 right, as someone asked about why Troopers were allowed to come back as div I...they were scrutinized by DCI (and the IRS) and the committee allowed them to come back Div I...I think it's all on a case to case basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWonka Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 that's no longer the case, and now corps must be approved by a committed in order to compete in Div. I. So does that mean a crazy person has to approve someone going into Div I?? :P Sorry couldn't resist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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