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Wow, 11 corps for ten spots, what a joke.

You know Scott, you shouldn't even be talking about this situation. You know what you did was one of the most ####ed up things ever. I wont go into it hear but you know what I'm talking about.

I also had not every heard of a Sr. corps called shockwave in the area. There was a JR. Corps called shockwave where all the members ended up quitting because of the director. Are you sure it was a senior corps Jeff because that seems a little weird that they would have the same name and the same situation with the director.

Wow Jeff I did not know that, I went to one of the first Renegades rehearsals with a couple of snare drum friends on our way to a Santana concert. There were only 4 other drummers there besides my friends and I. I did not see all the people from shockwave there but we were only there for a couple of hours so they could have been in other romms around the school.

You will have to stop by the Renegades and say hello. To this day you are still the best percussion teacher I have ever had and I have had quite a few. I at least owe you a beer or two for that.

Hey guys, Scott Johnson does not write the drum book, that would be Dave Glyde. Also don't quote me on this but I don't believe that Wayne writes most of the horn book anymore, that would also be Dave Glyde.

Do they have a #### bucket boy position open?

1988 The Freelancers marched 11. Early in the season one side would play something dirty that the other side had no clue about because there were so many drummers. I remember a picture of six of the snares that year and thinking what a big line that was since the sixth snare on the end was really the center snare of the line.

Maybe they were at the Latin Grammy's but the question was about the AMA performance and those guys were a mix of local LA drummers. I marched with the bottom bass and he does indeed live in the LA area and those were Dynasty drums owned by PC.

It was a mix of local drummers from the LA area and they were using PC's drums.

I never ran a winter guard but I have done a winter drumline. This was some of our costs. $2,000 for school rental in Dayton $16,000 for plane tickets to Dayton $6,000 for a bus in Dayton $10,000 for hotel rooms in Dayton $8,000 for truck rental and fuel to get equipment to Dayton $5,000 for food in Dayton One five day trip to Ohio would cost us almost $50,000. Other cost that I wont go into that much detail about would be school rentals for just about every weekend during the season, insurance, music, STAFF, equipment, transportation, unifoms, and props. Our budget was over $100,000 so I could see a guard spending $80,000.

You do know it wasn't a Renegade that started this thread so I am not sure who you think doesn't look very good. We are not complaining on here at all, we are just drinking a few beers and trying to get some good surfing in before the winter.

Just to be clear here Liz, the Renegades are not on here complaining. The only two responses on here from Renegades are talking about having a good time and a number and placement doesn't mean anything to them. I wasn't able to make it out there with them this year but I know they had a great time and we are already talking about another fun year to come.

I think just the opposite. One of the main reasons for the G-7 is because they don't feel that DCI is working anymore. That DCI loses money and something needs to change in a big way or we will lose this activity. So you are just fueling the fire by not spending money and having DCI make even less money. I think now would be the best time to help DCI and go to as many shows as you can and help them make a profit or the big changes will come and they might not be the ones you want.

Well the first thing to go will be the B and C corps. But the one good thing that they have that a lot of other corps don't have are many sponsors. They don't have to pay for most of their equipment and I know at least one company that not only gives them free product but pays them to use that equipment. I looked at the Jarvis stands they have for the mirrors and thought those had to be very costly. Two days later I find out they are sponsored by Jarvis and got them for free. I knows it's a bummer that another bingo hall is coming in down the street but maybe they should look for another location in another part of the bay.I don't see how they can complain that another business is coming in, it hapens all the time in every business. This Put the Freelancers out of business as a drum corps in 1995 and then finished off the drum line this last season. I know they will figure it out but they will have to make many changes.

The show on the 10th has two world class corps and two all age corps along with the open class corps.

Well we were talking about a comment made by someone who said the Blue Devils show made them throw up a little bit in their mouth and how many people didn't like the comment because it was disrespectful to the members but I have to say you are taking it to a whole new level. I am secure enough to say I think something is pretty. I know who I am and those kinds of things don't bother me but if they bother you I am sorry.

Why do you assume I was talking about a guy? There are many women in the Blue Devils.

I believe that you guys are on top of it. To me the Blue Devils do drum corps better than anyone and I mean before they take one step on to the field. With all the partnerships and system blue along with the new media page and the summer clinics around the country, you guys are figuring out how to make more money and keep your organization going. I know you guys will take a huge hit when that new hall opens but I think you are one in few that will be able to survive and survive well.

Yes they did. They use to make a lot of money off of bingo but in 1993 a new bingo hall opened up a mile or so down the road. While this new place would draw in 400 people a night the Freelancers would get about 100 people. After the 94 season they just could not afford the cost of a drum corps off of bingo so in 1997 they decided to try a winter line. Even during the run of the winter line they had to take a year off here and there because bingo just wasn't making the money.Doing a winter line cost them less than a tenth of what a drum corps would cost. When the electronics were taken away the paper game could not even pay the bills to keep the doors open so like many businesses in this day and age they went out of business. I know the Blue Devils are worried about this same thing. They have a new bingo hall coming in very close to them and this could have a huge impact on them.

They have always played paper bingo but with a bigger better hall down the street in a different county they could not compete. That's what folded the drum corps in 1995. It's the same thing the Blue Devils are trying to avoid. I think the Blue Devils even went to court to try to stop the new bigger better bingo hall from opening near them with no luck.

I don't know about that. The corps I work with is full of lead sops from BD, SCV, Star and a few others. They have played many of the solos from the past DCI years. Here is a example of one of those sops that use to march in that corps. Get past the singing and listen to the end. I marched DCI and have taught both Sr. and Jr. corps and I enjoy both. I like DCI,DCA,WGI and BOA. Anything that combines music in motion and entertains me I enjoy. It is amazing what the kids do today in DCI and just the same what the 50year old horn players do in the corps I teach now. One of the things I enjoy most in Ca. is watching the BDC corps and let me tell you that they are not as good as a DCI or DCA corps but they are sure fun to watch. You just have to enjoy what you are watching for what it is. Don't try to compare the two, thay are both cool to listen to in my car.

Just to be clear on the Freelancers, the drum line has ended the season a little early and can't go to Dayton this year but will be back. The Alumni is still going strong and the mini corps is planning to come back to DCA again this season.

If you march in a DCA corps you should know what a color pre is

Ogden was always our first stop on the big tour. After a 20 hour bus ride, we would get our drums out and warm up to get our hands moving after the long ride. It was always after 8 pm and the snare line would each put in a dollar to guess on what exercise the cops would show. It was either 88 or 89 and we were sharing a school with another corps in Co. We got there the day before and found out we couldn't play after 9. With only one field, we had to share it for ensemble. The other corps asked us if we wanted a 7-9 block or a 9-11 block. We took the 7-9 block and laughed when the cops showed up ten minutes into their ensemble.