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Some of these organizations wait until the very last minute to comply and the state needs time to go over their submissions, sometime multiple year submissions as in the case of SCV. That's why there is really no hard "drop-dead" date on the intent to suspend/revoke letter. Organizations are really given every opportunity possible to comply. These lists are updated monthly by the state, so hopefully by the next update or by February, their name will disappear. Thanks for you post and added perspective 👍

No, and that's a good thing. I don't believe their 501c3 status will be revoked, or even suspended by the state. In terms of "dead" I was referring to this topic being beaten like a dead horse. But it is the off-season and just my personal opinion.

New Year, same dead horse. 🙂

Happy to see this update from SCV management. Hopefully they follow through and the corps returns to dominant form soon.

I thought it already happened a long time ago.

Yes. Retirement life and I highly recommend it.

I'm choosing to give Santa Clara's Board and Management team the benefit of the doubt. No, it obviously doesn't look good right now, but the COVID shut down in CA really DID have a negative impact on many business, profit, and non-profit. I'm hoping their back 990's are submitted soon to avoid a suspension or revocation of their non-profit status. OTOH....😬.....I have seen "this" movie before. There once was a national known corps that folded. Years later, a former director took control of the name in an effort to "restart" the corps. A 5013c status was obtained and a very-very profitable bingo game was built. A LOT of cash was coming in but the new corps never materialized. Occasionally, a small winter guard or drum line was put out but that was it. The cash coming in was not spent on the product on the field as it should have been. Where did all the money go.......? Wellllllllll......

Notes on a score card............the bands in this parade are wearing hats. They look better than Drum Corps that don't.

Loved the nod to the Santa Clara Vanguard.

Football season is over for me 😢 but Happy Thanksgiving to all! It will be a great day tomorrow.

As it should be 😀

Soooo awesome!! I don't usually watch it but I will this year. Thank you Band Directors! Would Drum Corps have ever existed without y'all?

Not understanding why it's assumed Garfield will fold if they lose this case. Although all the money in the world can't make up for the trauma and harm of sexual assault the reality is the average judgment settles for under a million - it's not right, or wrong, just statistical reality. The fact it happened 40 years ago will also come into play in terms of monetary damages. Their insurance should be able to cover and if they end up folding it will be for other reasons, not this.

Ha Ha Ha Ha! Well done.

Oh, how awful. Those poor kids and their families. Prayers said.

Wow. 1985 is considered "vintage"......? What's older than vintage 😬?

I don't see it as a sign of trouble. Corps need funding all the time and towards the end of the year is a good time to remind folks of that.

"AF".....? After fishing, Always fascinating, Artichoke fever, Apple fritter?

But those kind of people are miserable anyway and anonomous message boards are just an outlet. We can't afford to lose Garfield, nor Santa Clara. The vast majority of us want to see both succeed. Have faith, 2000Cadet.

Nor should they respond to anonymous people on an Internet message board as that's all it is. And nothing posted on DCP, true or not, is going to be used in any litigation.

That's too bad. Non-binding arbitration is usually a complete waste of time and money. It's expensive, time consuming, and rarely resolves the dispute. At least one party will not like the results and pursue the case further. You basically get to pay attorneys twice for arguing the same case. And guess which group developed the concept of 'non-binding arbitration'?

If Garfield's last year was 2023 it won't be because of this pending litigation.

Mediation is a less expensive process and it's done on the belief that two parties can come to a mutual agreement. Arbitration is a more expensive process and less desirable especially if you have a weak case.

Arbitrators listen to facts and evidence from both sides and render a binding decision. Mediators try to get each side to come to a mutual agreement.

In retrospect, it was probably never a good idea to mix kids and adults in close quarters and on the road for weeks at a time.