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Finals yes ... most will not want their early season products out there for public consumption because let’s face it...they are pretty darn dirty .

It’s way to late for that now .

Don’t they just phone the scores in anyways ? What’s the point

Welcome to not making the G7 that H spearheaded . You would just be another non corps in 2020

Imagine if DCA would have put thier weight (back then) behind finals in WS NC how many they could have drawn. Compared to Rochesters dismal numbers. Too late now.

No member Safety in 2006 during Ernesto at Semi Finals. I remember the words coming down from DCA that the show will go on no matter what and marching in the middle of Hurricane Ernesto. Our DM Almost got blown of the podium 4 or 5 times. It was really NOT a safe thing to do. They could have just given us a phone in score like they did anyways.

Lol I’m sure . I’ve talked to two Madison Alumni today . Furious and not another dang dime were the first words out of their mouth .

Madison Scouts lost its identity and its credibility years ago. Now I feel sure they just lost their alumni donations . They have lost alot more than what they think they may have gained

Agreed! Sometimes you do everything right and get the wrong result

I predicted more to be honest with you .

So the show got cancelled ? I really feel bad for those that traveled . All that money gone

Funny how words and the direction of a thread can change over just a few years heh 🙂

It’s just one big I told u show from here on out

If only people would have listed to Gil silva in 2006 when he said this is exactly what was going to happen if

Congrats to the 2020 DCA champion lol

At some point you just got to throw in the towel and the time is now. Pioneer regardless of what may have been good intentions has not had a competitive product in years. AT some point you have to listen to what DCI and The judges are telling you and adjust to the polices, the direction the activity is going and to the sheets. Survive or die. While I appreciate some of what they were wanting to do with their programming they needed to make changes. Either at the top or the top needed to make some changes. Clearly that did not happen for them. We have seen that happen on the DCA side of things as well. As the DCA model changed from a all inclusive activity to implementation of a 35 member rule and going from a Senior activity to a All Age mostly youthful activity..those that did not conform or change to the new model found themselves to lost or out. Those that conformed and made the adjustments stayed. Those that did not faded into the sunset. Pioneer will be missed by some.. most will forget they existed in a single season or two. Its just the way the game is played.

I haven’t since 2009 and don’t see it changing till we get a real drum and bugle circuit

FB alleged conduct has trickled down to so many good people that have lost jobs because of him ,, been shuned away from the activity because of their accociation with him and generally speaking caused a huge mess . Yet he gets on Reddit and plays the poor pitiful me act and blames everyone for his so called tough management tactics and disgruntled staff members . cry me a freakin River

DCA?

LOL

It might not be enough but its a start. Clearly in the case of Larson everyone knew his history and turned a blind eye to it. I think other cases people turned a blind eye to things. Disclosure of Background checks to DCI and DCA would wave red flags in any case.

You know a REASONABLE policy for DCI and DCA to come up with is to require each and every corps to perform records background checks on each and every Staff Member and Marching member of the corps. The corps would pay for the Staff Members and the marching members it would be added to the dues and fees at check in. Most states perform these tasks at $35 or less. Seems like a very small price to protect the children and would give both DCI and DCA some protection that they are doing something about this. Its a no brainer.

http://www.wfmz.com/news/lehigh-valley/former-allentown-cadets-director-in-court-on-sex-assault-charges/939524687?fbclid=IwAR2rfChVNEeTWjSeAa4-5HwTIHBv3m8friWFv_vcrDpST93k-uBucuDnMEI Back in court

There will be lots of continuations and reschedules on the docket before its over.

A Brilliant move to attract members from C2 would be to offer the members that PAID the $150 camp fee back in November $150 off Dues for 2019.