oldtimedrummer

Totally agree with the original poster. BD's show had such an impact on me, that the entire time an outstanding Carolina corps was performing, I was trying to digest and absorb what I had just witnessed with BD. Truly an amazing designed and performed program.

How can you leave Crown out of the mix for taking first? Especially after they closed the gap big time on Cadets last night?

I disagree. Crown doesn't have a weakness in guard and percussion. Just because two boneheaded judges gave them sixth, doesn't mean a thing at this point. They apparently didn't get the memo, that Crown is for real across the board. I'd suggest everyone look and listen with their own eyes and ears and report back. There's NO WAY Crown was sixth in anything in MN.

There's no way Crown was sixth in guard yesterday. Period.

Totally disagree. Crown is up to par all right. Their drumline is just fine. It's the judge that hasn't figured it out yet.

I have a hard time seeing Crown sixth in anything tonight. WTF are these judges looking at?

Totally agree. No way are they sixth in anything.

I don't understand your position. Would a business (Corps) send the kid packing? Or would a business (Corps) keep the young person involved on board? Car breakdown or not. Of course there are variables that we don't know about. IMO, you're trying to paint this situation with a broad political brush, and it simply doesn't work.

Bones is back, even if this is a multi-year process. I doubt they make the Saturday night show, but they will be very close.

Yeah, but can they play them?

You make a good point. However, the judges will remember, and will score appropriately and accordingly. At least I hope so.

Keep the faith.

You'll get them in. Just have faith.

I haven't seen SCV live, so I don't want to be unfair or biased. But based on what I've seen on FN and in person, the Vanguard has a long haul to catch the top four.

Yes, Crown was at Avon. And IMO, based on what I saw for July 14th, they are going to be right in the thick of things Saturday.

All things considered, I think it's pretty good. For me to be able to watch all of these regional contests for $79.00 and stay at home, it's a deal. I haven't had any real issues, although the sound is imbalanced on some broadcasts.

Agreed. I saw Carolina Crown in Indy last night, (new ending and all), and they ARE the real deal.

Exactly.

Ok. So what does bass drummers laying on their drums, or tenors hanging upside down have to do with the Cavaliers program concept? Hence the "gimmick" label.

Totally agree. Crossmen are WAY better then last season.

IMO, the whole premise that there are "three above them", is false. I'm basing this on Crown's last head to head meeting with Cavaliers and the resulting .9 tenths spread. I was at the Bowling Green show, and I'm telling you, Crown connected big time with the audience (and apparently some of the judges). We'll see how it all shakes out Saturday night, but right now, I think their total package is as good as anyone's.

A new ending. Which may or may not put them over the top. Don't get me wrong, BD, Cavaliers, and Cadets are all formidable, with great staffs who know what to do. But IMO, from a programing standpoint, Crown is solidly in there with them with perhaps, the best complete package.

When I look at the other three, I don't see any one program that really stands out, or that is bringing anything new to the table. Cavaliers are somewhat esoteric, gimmicky, and segmented. Cadets and BD are both very good, but don't strike me as having that something special, that makes a winner. Crown may just have the best total package this year. And, Crown was only .9 off the Cavaliers in Toledo, beating them in three captions. IMO, this is a four way race, with Crown having an excellent chance.

Totally disagree. Crown may very well have the best total package on the field this year, and a chance to make history.

Check patterns and all.