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Aww ... look at the little poster proclaim regional superiority. S'cuute.

It's interesting to compare CT's captions scores from Centerville vs Racine. Their brass score actually increased by a tenth at the DCI show, whereas pretty much all the other performance/GE captions took a gigantic hit. Not sure if Isoda is a full-on DCA judge, but he's judged quite a few all-age corps at DCI shows. The disparity between DCI/DCA panels is a fact of life, though. Either way, a DCA corps that does these shows is getting good information. http://dcacorps.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/kilties.pdf http://recaps.competitionsuite.com/b60a30fc-0a46-4440-a789-70a1668ec2d3.htm

Can you elaborate on what you found "offensive," as well how this isn't "Madison" show? Please.

Not a fan of discussions that devolve into treating designers/instructors (vast majority of whom are paid peanuts and have second jobs) like professional sports coaches/managers (most of whom are overpaid morons ... well, NFL specifically). That being said, I like what Madison's staff has done this year. Thought they were in danger of being on the bubble for finals after the turnover, but there definitely seems to be a clear vision across all captions that the members are buying into.

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Phantom, Bluecoats, Madison ... 2001 really was a great year. My first major DCI event: a hell of an introduction to the activity. Cadets and BD both had incredibly solid shows and performances. There was just something missing in each show design. With Cavies, I feel like 2001 was their dirtiest show during their 2000-2006 reign. I really don't think it was musically up-to-par with BD or Cadets, at least the hornline (some weird entrances and releases). Visually ... well ... that was the year Michael Gaines became one with the Force.

I'm no moderator and I'm sort of enjoying this dumpster fire of a thread, so I could care less if it's closed. That being said ... This thread has multiple different viewpoints chatting at each other, with no real dialogue going about the show itself. Of the people who don't like the "trend" (if there is one) of sub-par PR show designs, very few of them are giving actual reasons why they don't like the show. The rest of them are saying "this show sucks ... fire someone ... make it like 2008/1989/my favorite year again." Furthermore, these same people -- a couple may be alumni, but who knows -- are saying some fairly provocative stuff about the organization itself. You can call people "hyper sensitive borgs" and complain about social ills or whatever anti-PC nonsense all you want, but the below kinds of posts are going to channel some outrage and derail a topic. I have nothing against stating an opinion, but if it's a dumb and unfounded opinion, then that's how discussions turn into flame wars. ^ Calls for an overhaul to an entire organization, as if it's being run by the mob. ^ This is a former volunteer telling the mother of a current member what she can and can't do with some acronym. ^ This same former volunteer is saying several dozen people should be fired for committing the cardinal sin of not being top 5. ^ Apparently, there is a "No Desire to Compete" school-of-thought toward show design. ^ Not being in the top 5 makes you obsolete. Got it.

I've always wondered if DCA ever released attendance figures, but I guess they don't have to if they don't want to.

Same. Haven't had issues. Agreement on the redesign being rough. Seems like they held on to the original design way too long (early 00s ... if not earlier). Weren't prepared for HTML5 era.

Depends. If the season is going relatively smooth and if there's a few changes thrown in ... absolutely. Since you're mostly cleaning and doing countless reps, almost every change that's taught is a refreshing break from the daily grind. If the staff knows what they're doing, they strategically insert changes/additions as the season progresses. If you're doing it right, it's all about cleaning and having more fun with your show leading up to finals. If the season is going off the rails, however ... that's a different story. The show design for my age-out year was a mess, so we had to completely relearn 1/3 of the show. We learned new drill for half our closer in one day ... then had to perform it the following night. The rewrites were effective, but too difficult to perform after only 12-14 hours of rehearsal. We laid a gigantic egg that night and spent the remainder of the season getting it "almost-but-not-quite" clean. Other parts of the show went through multiple (like 4-5) changes, which is insanely frustrating. Most were easy adjustments, but others were "let's see if this crazy idea sticks to the wall." There were also certain people on staff who thought we were "soft" and had us do "beatdown" basics sessions late into the season. About a week before finals, some idiot tech had us do some useless beatdown track basics. Didn't apply to the show or "make us better." All it did was #### everyone off, demoralize an already frustrated group, and make the season's end that much better.

If that's the case, then that changes things. Sorry for hijacking a DCI show thread with DCA problems. Glad to see Thunder Brigade performing. Hoping they can build off this group next year.

Ah crap ... my bad. After reading it again, it makes way more sense. Yeah, I hope it changes.

EDIT: I misread a post and went all SJW. My bad.

To be fair, that was very early in DCA prelims.* The stadium filled out a little more as the evening went on. *I complain about this a lot, but DCA should've given Heartliner the finals night exhibition spot. Instead they gave it to the highest scoring non-finalist group. Such a dumb practice that I wish DCA's show coordinators would stop.

I think it's up to the host stadium. I did buy beer at DCI Minnesota two years ago (beer sales at TCF Bank Stadium was a brand new thing and something of a rarity at many college stadiums). Might be a good idea to check with a facilities contact. I don't think DCI has any special rules.

I thought Shenendoah Sound was farther inland, but it looks like they're only an hour away (hope they come back, BTW). The more I think about it, the more I would like DCA to take another stab at Annapolis. The logistical stuff I mentioned affected the membership, not so much the paying audience. I think a third round would see a lot of improvement. The weather was pretty horrid in 2012 (don't care what anyone says ... Maryland is "the south"), but Rochester had Hurricane Ernesto in 2006, so it's not like there's any weather advantage.

Moved back to Rochester last year. Going to be there for next couple of years. I shouldn't have it "wasn't a good fit" (don't drink and post) ... it was a great experience. Tons of parking and warm-up spaces in a scenic campus, and everything was well-maintained. The stadium was magnificent. Annapolis was great host city, too. Plenty of rehearsal spaces and a good overall area. Wouldn't mind having it back there. The issue (IMO) was more with the region, the immediate area, and how certain events were structured. - Even though Annapolis is closer to groups like Bucs and Cabs, there's no DCA corps in the immediate area. Hosting this type of show was a brand new experience for the area. - The I & E competition was originally supposed to be in town (on the waterfront, I think), but it got moved to the stadium and was a logistical mess. - The full-size stadium was very shallow and ate up a lot of sound, especially from the smaller groups. A lot of this is nit-picking. Annapolis has a lot more going for it than Rochester, but the City of Rochester goes out of its way to accommodate DCA. More festivities in the city center ... a better sized stadium for the performers and audience ... familiarity with the activity and more hosting experience ... Annapolis doesn't need DCA. Rochester does. As much as I'd rather go somewhere else (Columbus?) every now and then, there's a reason Rochester keeps hosting.

When in Rome, kick ###.

Yeah, but a few keyboard warriors who do nothing for the activity outside of DCP have "higher standards," and any placement outside the top 5 is a fireable offense to them. #### this thread ... everything from the stupid title to the orgasmic bliss some posters get from bashing an organization and its staff.

Has Navy-Marine Corps Stadium hosted many DCI shows? I was there for both DCA championships ... wasn't a good fit. Great venue though. Would be a great spot for a regional.

I get that, but again ... we're talking about two different organizations under two different leadership groups (operating under two different philosophies). To be fair, I don't know the PR org as well as Madison's ... so maybe you're on to something. But I'll remain skeptical. Thank you for making this thread suck less.

Is PR in danger of placing 14th? Totally different circumstances.

A friend of mine who's a band director took his students to the Murfreesboro show. The group ended up with some lousy seats at the endzone (I'm guessing due to the sheer number of tickets sold) despite paying decent amount for the student package. It's a bummer that they didn't get a good show experience, but I suppose it's also a "good problem to have" scenario.