Morgoth Bauglir

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Well I just aged out, and I still don't think the age-out rule should be increased. 21 (or 18) is the standard boundary bewtween adulthood and pre-adulthood. Drum corps should remain a youth activity IMO.

I dunno, but keep in mind that that average persona that posts on DCP and votes for "crowd favorite" polls, does not make up most of the audience that watchs throughout a season, or even just at finals. One could argue even that band kids make up a very large percent of drum corps fans. And most of them end up picking that years champion as their favorite, until the next year:) So in that sense, every champion is a crowd fav.

After aging out, I can say, definately think about what you want out of your experiance. I remember that one of my goals when i first started marching 4 years ago, perhaps the biggest goal, was to march finals. I did not accomplish that goal. And while I do not think by any means that my time with the corps I was in was a waste or not worth it, I do look back on my marching career with a certain sense of disappointment in myself and my choices. No doubt, I had a blast, but I know I could have had more, and I think I should have. With that in mind, think about what you want out of marching. Certain teaching jobs will be easier with a ring or a famous name behind you. Also, consider the teachers and their style. Personally, if I had another year to march, I would not march anywhere that rehearses form over dot. But that's just me. If teaching style and philosophy are big deals to you, than whether you have a good time on tour mihgt depend a great deal on the staff you are with.

I too would like to know the answer to that.

I know it has been worst in the past. There was a whole phase where everyone was trying different gimmicks and such to boost GE. And yeah, every year some corps does something out of the ordinary. In 02 there was Bostons Closed Captioning. But this year it seemed there were a lot more than usual.

Is it just me or was there an inordinate amount of props this year? We had doors, umbrellas, ladders, giant sundials and postcards, just to name a few. To be quite honest, I find that stuff far more tacky and BOAish than amped keyboards.

Kelly Howell. Cuz shes an awesome player and quite a looker too B) Seriously, best cymbal player I have met. I learned more from her than anyone else. And Steve "Chicken" Collins. He introduced me to the world of percussion when I was in HS. He is prolly the biggest reason I am involved with any of this at all.

I can't vote. My fav show isnt on the list....

well it surely won't get as much scrutiny as it already gets here on DCP

I agree. On that note. If any pecussion caption heads out there are looking for a cymbal tech, I just aged out of Crossmen and have all marched cyms fro Glassmen. I would love to help out a line next summer. :)

This lame point keeps being brought up so I guess I'll ask the same questions again. Why do we have 7-10 man snare lines? 2 snares standing still in the pit would be cleaner and would not have to worry about marching effecting the playing. Why do we have a marching bass line? 1 man playing some toms or even a half moon of basses in the pit would free up 4 more horn spots and would be a lot more in time. Why do we have tenors? They are somewhat harder to hear on the field anyways. In the pit you could hear them and play a lot more musical. As for the front to back timing issues brought up by my new vision for the battery; With the introduction of amps, we could put the pit in the back. That would be an excellant source of time for the brass and with amps you would still be able to have them contribute greatly musically. Let's take it even further. Why have so many brass who are running around and wasting their breath on moving all while risking messing up their sound with the movement? Maybe if we made them stand still or even sat down it would sound better. My whole point is this. Why do we even march at all?? We just do because that is the activity. Yes we have a pit to cover the stuff you cannot really move with. But for everything else, if it can be marched, it should be. Because that is just the nature of this activty.

but that changes the whole margin idea. it doesn matter if you added 1000 to every score, the margin is still there. The question is, was the 8th place coprs brass peformance caption reall 1.5 to 2 point behind the first place corps, or just a few tenths. Once you answer that issue, then you will have the answer. Do you really think the lower corps were that close excellance-wise to the top corps, if so then maybe they should have been closer. But the judges seem to see more of a differance. Who is right? I don't know.

No. Because judges slot corps to place within certain numbers in order to leave room. Like what was brought up in the ".85 from perfect" thread, a score of 100 does not mean the show was perfect. It is just the highest attainable opinion in the shape of a number. And when a judge watches the 8th place corps, he expects with due cause that they will be not as good as the 3rd place corps. At the same time, he does not know by how much. So by leaving a large margin, the judge is free to say the 3rd place corps was WAY better by making the margin large or just a bit better with a smaller margin. But if they don't leave the room, than if the later corps are way better, the scores might not reflect this.

I must say, as an age out, it did seem rather anti climatic. Like we got there. They did the speech. But none of us really knew what was going on. We were just kind of standing there on the front while Brandt was giving announcements about the end of the show. Then these guys just showed up and handed us some pins, and the we were told to get off the field. There really was no "ceremony".

Aging out having never marched finals. And getting 14th place the past 2 years I marched.

Honestly, I can't see SCV getting any higher than 4th in drums, probably lower. They have had just too many changes. Maybe in a few years they will build it back up. But the grip change took every snare vet they had and made him a rookie. And I heard there wernt many vets to begin with. Add on the staff change and Cassella leaving. This is going to be a big rebuilding year for SCV.

I agree. And if you want to talk about forgotten sections, try cyms. At least ever group has a pit.

you know, there is a swell entry for drum corps on wikipedia

Really? So you traveld back in time to the the revolutionary war and checked that all their bugles were in G? While I agree that what we have today is not "drum and bugle corps", neither was anyone else marched if they had any valves at all. KEY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH A HORN BEING A BUGLE. I follwed you up until that. How are the drumlines like the one I got back from today, not drumming. I am pretty darn sure what I just went through all weeked is drumming. You know, 20 guys playing singles, paradiddle-diddles, and flam 5s on snares, tenors and basses. How is that not drumming? Great point. It troubles me that the people who claim to be experts about what are "real bugles" dont really take the time to understand the whole nature of the instrument. Bugles were here long before the 50's VFW corps. Like hundreds of years before. Again, Key has nothing to do with it. I am all or statng the fact that today's instruments are not bugles. But if you are going to make a huge deal out of it, make sure your arguments are correct. take a few minutes to look up some real definitions, not just spout your opinion of the old days. People keep mentioning that playing on G horns made them feel apart from band. That's awesome. Let's say that instead of using incorrect technical terms. Maybe I sound like an arse, but this topic comes up a lot. And every time I hear the same 2 sides arguing with the same wrong information and opinions disguised as fact. I still think it's ok to refer to the horns as Sopranos, Baritones and contras. After all let's not forget the nature of those terms comes from music range as a whole, not just in relation to drum corps. A trumpet is still plays soprano, so the name still applies. I am pretty sure when you go listen to a choir, the sopranos and baritones arnt holding G bugles. (yes I am aware that there are multiple real definitions of "bugle". But none of them secify key as a factor. I believe the standard defintion is a horn with no valves.)

It has been down for like 5 or 6 months. That is a little more than "temporary". Does anyone here know any of the people affiliated with the site?? Perhaps we can get one of them to post just once about the site. This question pops up on every forum i visit every few weeks. So far, nobody seems to know anything. It would be nice just to get one "press release" from the source.

Does anyone know where I might be able to purchase marimba sheet music? Specifically, im looking for "Wind in the Bamboo Grove" by Keiko Abe.

Not the best year. With things going so well as of late, why change?

According to the auditon info on Santa Clara's website, the snareline form the 05 season will be playing matched grip. The battery will also NOT be required to move to the bay area in late february, as they have done in the past few years. Any thoughts on how this will impact their standing as the best drumline?

I was in Kiwanis, and I'm pretty sure if neil peart had marched there I would have heard abut it.