drumcat Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 And school used to start after Labor Day, gas was a nickel, and we marched through snow uphill. The elementary school down the street now has a fall, winter, and spring break of a week each. Most high schools start in mid August. And diesel is $4. Frankly, thank goodness we've adapted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCIFan77 Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 Yeah I think DCA basically is the traditions of old DCI but still adapting to what the audience and corps wants/needs (switching from G bugles / updating marching style) I'm in DCA and I know it's the place for me right now. I'll end up doing DCI, but they are very different and I think that's a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skewerz Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 (edited) "Option A: US Open in Marion, OH as a reasonable option to going to DCI "LOL! I take it you've never been to the US Open at Marion, OH. POC field, POC stands 20 rows high (if that), which made up for being way too small leg-room wise by having wooden bleachers which gave you splinters. Add terrible lighting, no parking, a small show in a podunk country town, no atmosphere or personality, and you've got the US OPEN! Good corps, though, at least a couple. The US open is what got me interested in drum corps...Were they wooden bleachers? yes...was the lighting bad? yes...but..the stands were FULL. How many shows nowadays held at high schools have over 5,000 screaming fans...giving as much support to the Diplomats as they did Phantom Regiment. Podunk country town? maybe...atmosphere? did you say you attended one of these shows? The atmosphere was what I miss in drum corps shows of today...only a couple good corps in attendance? 1978...this is just the PRELIMS... 1 Phantom Regiment 84.750 2 North Star 83.450 3 Guardsmen 81.600 4 27th Lancers 79.000 5 Greece Cadets 74.500 6 Royal Brigade 74.450 7 Garfield Cadets 74.150 8 Boston Crusaders 73.750 9 Kilties 73.650 10 Cavaliers 73.400 11 Squires 72.050 12 Oakland Crusaders 71.500 13 Long Island Kingsmen 69.850 14 Empire State Express 67.050 15 Vagabonds 66.150 16 Seneca Optimists 65.750 17 Northstars 61.750 18 Florida Vanguard 61.350 19 Precious Blood Cardinals 61.000 20 Emerald Knights 54.000 21 Imperial Regiment 52.800 22 PAL Cadets 49.450 23 Marion Cadets 43.750 24 Falcon Ridgemen 43.200 1976 prelims... 1 Oakland Crusaders 86.150 2 Phantom Regiment 85.200 3 Blue Stars 84.100 4 Royal Crusaders 79.050 5 Guardsmen 78.200 6 Freelancers 77.500 7 Squires 76.250 8 Anaheim Kingsmen 75.050 9 Argonauts 73.450 10 Marquis 72.250 11 General Butler Vagabonds 69.350 12 Marion Cadets 68.500 13 Saints 68.000 14 Grenadiers 67.050 15 Belvederes 66.750 16 Colt 45 65.400 17 Precisionnaires 64.750 18 Emerald Knights 63.400 19 Des Plaines Vanguard 61.800 20 Geneseo Knights 60.400 21 Knight Raiders 58.700 22 Royal Knights 55.060 23 OLPH Ridgemen 54.700 24 Velvet Knights 54.300 25 New York Lancers 53.850 26 Cadets of Greece 53.650 27 Blue Raeders 52.950 28 Kingston Indians 51.650 29 Sky Ryders 49.450 30 Patriots (WI) 48.150 31 Golden Knights 45.050 32 Vaqueros 41.300 clear up to 1982...prelims... 1 Phantom Regiment 88.650 2 Crossmen 83.050 3 27th Lancers 81.350 4 Freelancers 80.500 5 Sky Ryders 78.500 6 Spirit of Atlanta 74.800 7 North Star 70.200 8 Defenders 70.000 9 Alliance (MA) 68.600 10 Memphis Blues 65.000 11 Velvet Knights 63.500 12 San Jose Raiders 62.150 13 Kingsmen 60.850 14 Les Eclipses 60.750 15 Pride of Cincinnati 54.850 16 Bluecoats 54.400 17 Saginaires 53.800 18 Renegades 49.700 19 Southwind 49.150 20 Guardsmen 48.650 21 Buckeye State Caballaros 44.550 22 Night Hawks 42.550 bluecoats in 16th...VK in 11 just missing finals...show me a top 7 like this today that's not a regional championship... Do you know how many of the "old phogies" would give their left sex organ to see a show like this nowadays? The US Open is what drum corps used to be about...tradition...excitement...a huge show...and great drum corps... Edited February 23, 2008 by skewerz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
En929 Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 and you're here because...edit: I'm a grammar moron ~>conner And you're just ignorant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
En929 Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 (edited) because he can't sea very well No, it's because you can't think very well. Edited February 23, 2008 by En929 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyboy Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 There is a DCI option to big bucks high powered three month touring. It is called Open Class now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirdcoast Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 (edited) Remember when: The weekend corps and local / regional model before "tour" used to be "the way it was" ? Follow me here...................................... Summer used to look like this: June 15 to July 10th Local circuit shows and Championships DCE, DCM, ODCA, DCNY, DCW, E-Mass, GSC and whatever they called in in the Pacific Northwest July 10 to July 24 Regional Championships and Festivals Barnum Festival, World Open, American International, etc July 24 to Aug 8th First Tour DCI East, DATR, DCI Canada(!), DCI South Late August Option A: US Open in Marion, OH as a reasonable option to going to DCI Option B: Second Tour in late August heading to DCI with nearly all DCI sanctioned shows. In the 80's and 90's , this model, for all intents and purposes, allowed for different kinds of corps. #1: weekend only corps that did local and regional shows and then headed to Butler or Marion against similar outfits. This was pretty much the A Class model. Remember 40 corps at Prelims in Marion? I do. #2 weekend corps that "came out" for First Tour after their regional championships were completed and "toured" right to DCI. This is the mid-tier Open Class model. Think Avant Garde, Colts, Boston, Dutch Boy, Florida Wave, Freelancers, early-VK #3 the "BIG" corps that did all the weekends in June, got on the bus and didn't get off til August 20th. Thats SCV, Garfield, BD, Suncoast. The sea change in drum corps may have come as the "big" corps tried to one-up each other from a competitive standpoint by doing more and more midweek shows, which then evolved into earlier and earlier shows (June 2nd...are you kidding me?) which then had the other corps chasing the carrot (but more often getting the stick). The earlier the busses rolled, the more rehearsal time, show opportunities, etc. So it became "full schedule or die!" DCI certainly promoted this model. To wit: More DCI sanctioned shows, the absorption of the DCM and DCE, and the near requirement that corps do the full DCI Tour or be relegated to a second class status...including prize monies. And only the best of organizations could "survive" this burdensome model. What we end up with is a slate of SUPER CORPS and very little else. The days of the local corps are long gone in DCI. But the residual effect is a HUGE increase in the size and quality of corps in DCA. This is the part I like. Where has the "depth" gone in DCI? The answer is DCA. Is DCA's product really that good? Make no mistake. The 2007 Buccaneers, Caballeros, Statesmen and Minnesota Brass were sensational. The corps were all full or near-full, and the achievement in visual, brass and percussion compares VERY FAVORABLY to the mid-tier DCI Finalists from, say, 1995. Guess what? That's good drum corps! Colorguard achievement is improving as well and the depth of the DCA package (corps 5-10 PLUS 18 'mini-corps' including Star of Indiana) makes it a great entertainment experience and value. I like the fact that DCA calls itself "all-age" because it attracts not only the "over 22 types", but the students who can commit to a corps schedule AND a work schedule, not go broke on fees and dues and still produce excellent drum corps . (kinda the way it used to be). I love you old Drum Corps nuts. The passion burns you can tell. Where have you been, obviosly not in Madison, WI. We enjoy DCI so much more than the KILT wearing, DCA. We enjoy spending our time helping our kids, instead of the personal satisfaction you get being on the field performing agian. Here in MADISON, we had our time, time for us to help others, not ourselves. Oh yea, every 10 years or so we can all pick up our Bugles, streatch, and blow the fans away. Now dont get me wrong, more power to ya if you think you can march as good or better than the middle teir corps in DCI, You really think you are better marchers than SOUTHWIND? Dont insult our DRUM CORPS! Do you really think you all are that good, especially in marching? Wow I may just have to finally check you all out. Ill bet you $1000 you are not. Then Ill take your money and give it to SOUTHWIND. They could use it.2007 DCI RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! deal with it. JASON MADISON SCOUT 82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89,06 LOW BRASS Edited February 24, 2008 by thirdcoast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piper Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 D. They could use it.....2007 DCI RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! deal with it. JASON MADISON SCOUT 82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89,06 LOW BRASS WOW! I didn't know Madison went DCA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paradiddle Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 It seems DCI is headed towards the "Super Corps" or Elite class. But my guess would be 5-8 Corps at best. The rest of the World Class DCI corps would be "feeder corps" for the Elite Corps. They would still have to scramble every year for new people, chase money, deal with bus break-downs etc. Open Class is much more reasonable but as a fan I would still choose a Reading Buc's - Statesmen - Cab's show over a Div II show. (I still would watch and enjoy the Open Class show because I just love to see drum corps anyway and the effort that the people put into it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToferVis Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 I love you old Drum Corps nuts. The passion burns you can tell. Where have you been, obviosly not in Madison, WI. We enjoy DCI so much more than the DRESS wearing, DCA. We enjoy spending our time helping our kids, instead of the personal satisfaction you get being on the field performing agian. Here in MADISON, we had our time, time for us to help others, not ourselves. Oh yea, every 10 years or so we can all pick up our Bugles, streatch, and blow the fans away. Now dont get me wrong, more power to ya if you think you can march as good or better than the middle teir corps in DCI, You really think you are better marchers than SOUTHWIND? Dont insult our DRUM CORPS! Do you really think you all are that good, especially in marching? Wow I may just have to finally check you all out. Ill bet you $1000 you are not. Then Ill take your money and give it to SOUTHWIND. They could use it. LOL wow. DRESS wearing DCA? That's just brutal. Anyway, one thing about DCA that ticks me is that....each year a corp can be so different than they were the year before. I guess it's the all age thing and so many people changing from year to year because of work, etc. But it's like you never know what you're going to get from a corps that year. If that makes sense...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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