KiltieKemo06 Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 FANtastic review. Honest, mixed with a little humour (which we all could use lately) and without any slamming of corps the poster does not like. I'll read Tigger's review anytime. Great job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBrogers Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 I never post but I thought I might add a few comments on this subject. The top 3 drum corps on friday night Cavaliers, Blue Devils and Bluecoats had some solid shows. With that said, Cavaliers definitely had the edge show wise. It was a noticeble level of difference between them and the Blue Devils and Bluecoats. One of the things it pains me to say is how the percussion scores were off. Bluecoats percussion section out performed Blue Devils and Cavaliers. Why do I say it pains me? Because when great performances are not rewarded history shows a corp changes their concept of what they will be doing in the future. Bluecoats drumline played an extremely difficult show and pulled it off cleanly. Well let me rephrase that. They were cleaner than the other lines that night and the difficulty level of the show was well above Blue Devils and Cavaliers. One of the things I have notice over the past 20 years is hornlines in general have gotten better but drumlines from the late 80's to mid 90's didn't improve as much. It wasn't until around 1995 when judges started awarding drumlines that played difficult parts. Case in point Blue Devils. It's taken almost 10 years from 1995 for judges to get drumlines to understand its OK to play difficult shows we will reward you. Because of this you have better drumlines today than 10 years ago. By not rewarding challenging parts performed cleanly, percussionists have a tendency to correct what they perceived to be doing wrong and take on less demanding parts resulting in the drumline level of performance to go down. Looking back this is not where drumlines should go. We should be getting better just like hornlines. Although we have not wiped away our gains, it is very easy, even easier than hornlies for percussionist to stop playing demanding parts in order to win. This is where winning can produce unintended consequencies and this is why it Pains me to look at the percussion scores. Some will get upset with this post but there is an underlying discussion among percussionist about this very issue and it does affect which drum corps can recruit needed talent in the future regardless if you are in top 12 or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fecontra Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 (edited) Great Review, thanks Pertaining to the Cadets narration, actually four performers would lose their spot: To the right of the pit what appears to be " The Monolith from 2001", is actually a screen covering the two voice providers, the two actors actually do not speak! It actually takes four persons to do the radio interview! Edited August 4, 2008 by fecontra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasPRfan Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 Thanks for the review & all the time you invested in it! It was a pleasure to read! Harvey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigger2 Posted August 4, 2008 Author Share Posted August 4, 2008 Great Review, thanksPertaining to the Cadets narration, actually four performers would lose their spot: To the right of the pit what appears to be " The Monolith from 2001", is actually a screen covering the two voice providers, the two actors actually do not speak! It actually takes four persons to do the radio interview! WOW! I assumed the actors were wearing wireless mics. OK, decision made, you have to keep the narration for those four member's experience. Thanks for the insight. Tigger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OICMR corps Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 WOW! I assumed the actors were wearing wireless mics. OK, decision made, you have to keep the narration for those four member's experience.Thanks for the insight. Tigger Maybe they could alter the stage into a sundial for them to push around durning the show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purexitement Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 I never post but I thought I might add a few comments on this subject. The top 3 drum corps on friday night Cavaliers, Blue Devils and Bluecoats had some solid shows. With that said, Cavaliers definitely had the edge show wise. It was a noticeble level of difference between them and the Blue Devils and Bluecoats. One of the things it pains me to say is how the percussion scores were off. Bluecoats percussion section out performed Blue Devils and Cavaliers. Why do I say it pains me? Because when great performances are not rewarded history shows a corp changes their concept of what they will be doing in the future. Bluecoats drumline played an extremely difficult show and pulled it off cleanly. Well let me rephrase that. They were cleaner than the other lines that night and the difficulty level of the show was well above Blue Devils and Cavaliers. One of the things I have notice over the past 20 years is hornlines in general have gotten better but drumlines from the late 80's to mid 90's didn't improve as much. It wasn't until around 1995 when judges started awarding drumlines that played difficult parts. Case in point Blue Devils. It's taken almost 10 years from 1995 for judges to get drumlines to understand its OK to play difficult shows we will reward you. Because of this you have better drumlines today than 10 years ago. By not rewarding challenging parts performed cleanly, percussionists have a tendency to correct what they perceived to be doing wrong and take on less demanding parts resulting in the drumline level of performance to go down. Looking back this is not where drumlines should go. We should be getting better just like hornlines. Although we have not wiped away our gains, it is very easy, even easier than hornlies for percussionist to stop playing demanding parts in order to win. This is where winning can produce unintended consequencies and this is why it Pains me to look at the percussion scores. Some will get upset with this post but there is an underlying discussion among percussionist about this very issue and it does affect which drum corps can recruit needed talent in the future regardless if you are in top 12 or not. I believe part of the problem with drums is that the snare heads are so tight. As a result two things happened: 1)you hear all the mistakes 2)they no longer sound like snare drums from previous years I miss the sound of great snare line. I believe the Cadets were the corp to keep a nice sounding snare line However, that changed a couple years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 Other than saying BD's show concept is basically a catch-all mistakes/excuse or whatever, great review. Write more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeN Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 Tigger, Thanks for stepping up and giving us your review - very nicely done. I can't wait to read more. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMichael1230 Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 Wow, what a clever take on things and a uniqe, far from boring presentation. This is my favorite review of the year so far. Thanks, and like someone else wrote, "Write more" !!!! LOL Geoffrey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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