TomPeashey Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 you guys got it right... kind of more like an "inconvenience" than a problem... but just think how much easier life is not to have to worry about someone hiring a lawyer to go after you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Matczak Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 you guys got it right... kind of more like an "inconvenience" than a problem... but just think how much easier life is not to have to worry about someone hiring a lawyer to go after you... yeah man,.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rap48 Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 (edited) Thanks Chris for posting the rules for Minii, I had written to Gary but its good to have them posted. The performance agreement simply says you understand that you are performing for the DCA. You agree to follow their terms for performing. Liability is the big deal YES. Most Mini Corps are covered by their Competitive or Alumni Corps. I believe you can get a policy for one night for around $200 -- $250 The Music clearance is the difficult one. It take time and arrangements vary in the asking price. Enrollment will be started shortly for the 20ieth DCA I&E Championships. Watch the Championship info on the DCA site. Any qustions you may have please e-mail me at Rap48@aol.com Edited April 8, 2009 by Rap48 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quegrawks Posted April 8, 2009 Author Share Posted April 8, 2009 ...........mostly legal stuff, liability, DCA recording stuff including copywrite and licensing requirements,.........etcwell, if the minicorps is an ensemble from a full fledged corps, DCA or Alumni, you could be covered with that groups liability policy,.........Erie Thunderbirds have had the same carrier for 18 years with a clean track record, .........our policy costs about $350.00 for the full corps for the year................... Ours is $450. Who do you use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Matczak Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Ours is $450. Who do you use? Harleysville,................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimF-LowBari Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 (edited) you guys got it right... kind of more like an "inconvenience" than a problem... but just think how much easier life is not to have to worry about someone hiring a lawyer to go after you... I think of it more like protection, kinda like those medical tests ya gotta have every now and then. Don't want to do it, don't want to think about it and don't want to pay it. But you really DON'T want to think of the consequences if you don't do it. Thanks for the info guys. Wasn't sure if #11 meant having the corps having permission to perform the music or giving permission for DCA to record and sell. Too bad I don't plan to go into semi-retirement mode for another 8 1/2 years. Central PA could use a competing corps of some (small ) size. PS - Thanks for the I&E warning Dick... I have been given orders about bringing a horn that weekend. But HornsUps' is older (inside joke).... Edited April 9, 2009 by JimF-3rdBari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-horns Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 About that general liability coverage.... Even if you are a local parade corps, you should have general liability insurance. The cost is insignificant with respect to the overall cost of running a performing group. It isn't just protection for the group's assets, it is personal protection for the group's official representatives (director, bus. mgr., etc.). Adding an additional insured party to the policy usually doesn't cost anything extra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Matczak Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 About that general liability coverage....Even if you are a local parade corps, you should have general liability insurance. The cost is insignificant with respect to the overall cost of running a performing group. It isn't just protection for the group's assets, it is personal protection for the group's official representatives (director, bus. mgr., etc.). Adding an additional insured party to the policy usually doesn't cost anything extra. Right on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomPeashey Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 yes, the protection is very necessary these days... ALSO - I highly recommend going the one step further and have "board of director's" insurance... it's a small amount and protects each board member from being sued personally for a perceived lack in judgement... absolutely necessary (especially in non profits) Let's say you have the dreaded bus accident.... catastrophic.... the bus company's insurance will only go so far... (normally 5 million per occurance) after that, the owners/operators are sued for all they have and then a "go for the throat" attorney will go after your insurance and then personally after each of the non profits board members - saying it was their decision to hire this company or was their decision to drive over night etc... you get the point... let's say the bus company is maxed at $5,000,000 let's say the corps is maxed at $1,000,000 10 are killed when the driver who didn't get enough sleep fell asleep and the jury awards $2,000,000 each.... that's $20,000,000 - believe me - not a far fetched amount with today's juries... the $14,000,000 difference has to come from somewhere... the trickle down effect can be personally disastrous. If you have 10 board members and the board insurance is $1,000,000 per board member... the difference is now only $4,000,000 which hopefully would be covered by the owners of the bus lines... sound fictious? not too many years ago we had a bus crash just like this on the thruway near Canandaigua and they proved the driver of the Niagara tourist bus was up gambling when he was supposed to be sleeping... and then fell asleep only an hour and a half into the over night trip home... hard to beat casino security cameras.... the final $$$ amount was enormous and the driver is still in jail... EVERYONE lost... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldStyleCorps Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 12 minimum, 21 max performing members,................. any combination of brass, percussion and/or guard,............this does not include a stationary honor guard or non performing DM,.................anything under or over the min/max is a DQ....................... This is a problem I have with the "NEW" version of Mini Corps. It seems for Better or Worse, that the NEW version is really just a "Mini Brass Ensemble" with a single person Drum Set. Guess I will never be the Big on Evolving thing. Oh well, guess that's the way things are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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